- 08/15/2008, 10:04AM ET
boltsfan said 08/15, 10:04 AM
I actually think that he will, only because the Pats secondary is their one glaring weakness. They have a lot of youg players (the only place on the D were that's the case) in the secondary that will benefit from Lynch's leadership.
MDPRIDE111 is ready said 08/15, 10:20 AM
I say no. He may provide relief for the deflated Patriots secondary (with the loss of Samuels and Gay), but he is old as well. Last season, he didn't force any fumbles, or intercept any passes for the Broncos. He didn't intercept any last year either, and only had 2 FF in that season.
He didn't play in 3 games last season, which shows bits of inconsistency. On September 25th, he will be 37. 37! This isn't baseball in which you can provide somewhat of of help if your 40ish. This is football, your getting hits everywhere.
If he missed 3 games last season, and hasn't had an INT in 2 seasons, you'd think his age is catching up to him. That said, I don't know how long he can last in New England without getting seriously hurt or benched because of his age.
Bottom line is, he won't be that big of a help for the New England Patriots. They also have Harrison, Sanders and Meriwether, so they might not need him, unless one of those safteys goes down.
boltsfan said 08/15, 11:13 AM
Maybe I should re-iterate. I believe he will HELP the D. I definitely not saying he will have much of an impact on the field, in fact just the opposet. He is going to be a great resource off the field. With the depth the Pats have at the Safety positions he probably won't see a lot of on the field action, barring injuries.
I believe that his value will came as a Player/Coach. He will be able to provide input for the young players between series and as they come off the field during package changes.
The Pats have only two players listed on their roster as safeties. Everyone else is listed as a DB. They are going to have to develope players to play safety. Lynch brings experience and knowledge of the game with him so I don't see how he can be anything but a help to the young players.
MDPRIDE111 is ready said 08/15, 11:48 AM
I don't think he will even help at defense for the Patriots, but special teams. Brandon Meriwether was a good special teams guy last season and he will probably be moved up to the starter. If he becomes the starter, then Rodney Harrison and Brandon Meriwether will start at saftey. Therefore making John Lynch only able to play for ST.
You said that he will be a great tool off the field, and I agree with that, but that isn't what this TD is about. So I will argue how the TD intended me to argue.
He might give them a little bit of an edge in ST, but we know that that isn't where he wants to play. Starters want to start, not play ST. It just doesn't seem logical that he would make a big difference on the defense, but I agree with your second argument that he will be a great mentor, but it is to late for you to change that because you changed your point to a point I agree with.
boltsfan said 08/15, 01:05 PM
EXCUSE ME!!!! I started the TD I believe I know what it is about.
""""Will Lynch HELP an already OLD Pats D""""
In my opening arguement I said that they will benefit from his LEADERSHIP.
Show me where I changed my point and I will gladly forfeit the TD.
I didn't ask if he will UPGRADE the D, which is what you are argueing he won't do. I asked if he will help, in other words, was it a good pick up for the Pats? In hindsight, maybe that would have been a better title, but I have still stayed on point.
So now tell me how he won't HELP the Pats D and earn your votes.
The Patriots need to develop some players for their secondary. John Lynch will help them do that.
MDPRIDE111 is ready said 08/15, 03:09 PM
HE won't help the Patriots D because the D doesn't need the mentoring. They already have a S that plays a hardnosed style in Rodney Harrison who has been playing longer that can help them with leadership. They don't need his leadership because Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, and Rodney Harrison are more of a leader in my eyes. He wasn't even the best DB on the Broncos (Champ Baily), and wasn't the leader in Tampa (Derrick Brooks, and Warren Sapp to name a few), so how do you expect to him to come to a defense with many experienced leaders, and provide leadership?
And how can he be a leader if he is on the DL which could very well happen? He won't get much respect by his teammates if he isn't even starting.
They do need to develop some in their secondary, but they already have someone who can do that, so who will they listen to? I think that the youngsters would pick Rodney over Lynch, but that is my opinion.
That is why John Lynch won't help the D, because they already have Rodney Harrison to do that.
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