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  • August 25, 2008 05:40 PM ET

Giants will miss the playoffs

FanMan. (54-34-7) vs djroxalot:Yoda=Zingers! (582-363-52)
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now ive seen many Tds that are along the lines of " the Giants wont make the superbowl" but ill go one step further. Ill say they'll miss the playoffs.

They have a decent offense but last year they got to the playoffs with a great defense, ancored by a great pass rush. that pass-rush was made from there 2 star defensive ends Osi Umenyoria and Micheal strahan. both are not playing this year.

They play in a super tough division that has improved drastically. They have a depleted d-line, ok linebackers and only an ok secondary.

now The cowboys assuming the cowboys, seahawks win the divisons these are the wildcard teams.

buccaneers/saints/panthers

cardinals

packers/vikings

redskins/eagles


Thats alot to beat out,

more to come and bye the way I thought this BEFORE osi went down.


Its awfully early to count them out........

Strahan might sign with them if NY personnel gets their head out of their butt crack and decides to offer him some serious cash money to sign and team up with Tuck at DE......

Eli is still a better QB than Leinart, T-Jack, Rodgers (until he proves himself), Campbell.......


The only other thing you argued is that Eli is a better QB than Leinart, T-Jack, Rodgers, and campbell. So?

The vikings and packers both will get wins against the bears and lions and are very good teams. Rodgers is playing very well and they have a great defense. The Vikings have a great Running game and defense as well. Whichever team loses the division will get the 1st wildcard spot.

now that leaves all these teams the Giants would have to beat out- Eagles, redskins, saints, cardinals.

The Saints will have a much easier schedual and have a potent offense. They will be healthy and they upgraded their defense on all levels with ellis, vilma, and gay.

The cardinals still have great WRs and good QB play. They have a good o-line and are a solid team. Plus they play in a very easy division except for seattle.

The eagles have maybe the best secondary in the NFL. They have Mcnabb whos healthy and Westbrook

Bottom line is that The Giants (on Paper) will not make the playoffs.


The bottom line is Green Bay AND Minnestoa need improved QB play from T-Jack and Rodgers to make the playoffs......

Green Bay has a young team that benefitted from having a grizzled vet like Favre at QB......Rodgers has been injury prone as a FREAKIN CLIPBOARD holder for god's sake......

Jackson is way too inconsistent and even with a very good defense and running game, could still miss the playoffs.......

The Cards have a weak defense and that is why they missed the playoffs last season......27th in points allowed and 28th against the pass......The NFC West was just as weak last year......And the Rams are going to be better this year with a healthy Bulger, a strengthened OL and a signed SEALED AND DELIVERED Steven Jackson.......

Bucs benefitted from the Saints and Panthers struggling last year........Both teams will be better this year........

Do my playoff picks last



FYI: How do you not make the playoffs on paper????


Ok, Rodgers has been doing very well in this preseason. He has tooken alot of hits and by the way If the reason they won last year was because of Favre Why didnt they win the 2 years before that?Ill tell you why. Because They had Great WR play last year. They had the most YAC last year which means all rodgers has to do is check down the ball.


The vikings Almost made the playoffs last year and improved their defense alot.

Let me ask you this. why did the Giants Win the SB last year? Because of their defense. Their defense was good because of Their pass rush which was good becasue of there 2 Star DEs. Which are now gone.


The Eagles Are Better as well. They have samuel, dawkins, sheppard, and brown in a great Secondary. They have a Better offense than the Giants and got hot right at the end of the season.

The Redskins have good Qb play and Great RB Play. They added 2 new WRs and Jason Taylor to an under-rated defense.

The Saints have a top 5, maybe top 3 offense. Their defense was their weakness and they sured that up.

Their is no way the GIants beat ALL those teams. And Just beacue they won the SB last year doesnt mean they automaticaly make it this year.


Pre season means very LITTLE. Who cares if he is doing well passing against guys in the secondary that will be CUT or 2nd or 3rd string on the depth chart.

Rodgers has taken a lot of hits???? When????

He has played very sparingly as Favre's backup yet he has spent considerable time on the Injured Reserve.

The Vikings wont take the next step and make the playoffs until Jackson steps up and he has showed he needs to be more consistent..Minny desperately wanted Favre when they saw what was going down in Green Bay.

The Giants defense got them to the Super Bowl where Eli outperformed Brady in a shocking display of maturity that we had never seen from Eli before.

Giants still have Tuck and they are moving Kiwanuka back to DE (his natural position) but he played LB so the Giants could have a more athletic defense.

Philly's season rides on McNabb's being healthy and at 31 that is never anything you want to bank on. Given his history of injuries.

Redskins????

6-10, 8-8 at best, rookie head coach, another offensive system for Campbell to learn in his short career

August 25, 2008  05:54 PM ET

Counter his argument Tuesday

August 25, 2008  05:55 PM ET

il try, but i might be busy, so i might have to tonight

August 25, 2008  05:55 PM ET

I'll wait for more, but leaning ----------->

August 25, 2008  06:05 PM ET

vote on arguments,

August 25, 2008  06:10 PM ET

I listed who Eli is better than, that takes out your listing teams that are better than the Giants, Fanman

Even it mine was a short and sweet argument

August 25, 2008  08:14 PM ET

I listed who Eli is better than, that takes out your listing teams that are better than the Giants, Fanman

Even it mine was a short and sweet argument
djroxalot=workaholic | 08/25/08, 06:10 PM
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You listed which QBs Eli is better than, That does not mean that those teams are worse than the Giants just because ELi is better.

August 25, 2008  08:32 PM ET

I think they will, but I will wait.

August 25, 2008  09:59 PM ET

Will wait. Too early to weigh in.

August 26, 2008  10:46 AM ET

can't count out the champs b4 the season even starts

August 26, 2008  01:20 PM ET

Out of the playoffs, HA they might repeat

August 26, 2008  05:22 PM ET

I don't think that the reigning Super Bowl champs should get any obligatory respect. The Giants aren't a great team. A shaky QB and a defense that's losing 4 starters.

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August 27, 2008  12:25 PM ET

Strahan is not signing with them, so doesn't that unvalidate some of the rights points?

August 28, 2008  10:28 AM ET

I think you're selling the Cards a bit short, DJ. THis would especially be so if Warner starts over Leinart. I think the Cards make it this year but just by a nose.

August 28, 2008  01:02 PM ET

and Rodgers has tooken alot of hits, The 1st few pre season games he was killed. they even had a 4 sack game.

August 28, 2008  05:23 PM ET

Fan Man

Keep smoking that ****

August 28, 2008  06:53 PM ET

I think the Giants are still good for a wildcard.

August 28, 2008  07:35 PM ET

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August 28, 2008  08:26 PM ET

Fan Man

Keep smoking that ****
djroxalot got a promotion!!! | 08/28/08, 05:23 PM
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Ill stop smoking it when you stop giving it to me.

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