- 12/21/2008, 02:18PM ET
Miami95 said 12/21, 11:47 PM
Hummmmmmmmmm......... you take first round pick Jerod Mayo (New England) from Tennessee 10th over all. I'll go with a second round pick in Brandon Flowers (Kansas City) from Virginia Tech 35th over all.
Da Cheezer said 12/22, 03:42 PM
Ok.... well, first of all nice pick Miami: AFC's defensive rookies aren't so deep this year
Anyway, lets look at stats:
121 tackles- 94 solo
65 tackles- 58 solo
Mayo has 56 more tackles than Flowers
They both have 0 sacks
Same amount of forced fumbles
Flowers has 2 more picks
The only category that Flowers wins in is interceptions and that is because he is a cornerback while Mayo is a linebacker.
Mayo has come in and done very well on a defense that needed somebody to step up. He has had huge games against some very good run offenses. He had....
- 20 tackles against the Jets who have pro bowler Thomas Jones running and linemen like probowlers Alan Faneca and Nick Mangold along with D'brickishaw Ferguson (4th overall pick). He had 11 tackles against the Colts who have Joseph Addai and he had 12 against Miami with Rickie Williams and Ronnie Brown.
Point is Mayo has definetely helped the Pats stay AFC East contenders this season while Flowers and the Chiefs are what? 1-14? 2-13?
Also, Flowers's picks both came against the Jets with Brett Favre who leads the NFL in picks!
Da Cheezer said 12/23, 04:15 PM
So now your giving me the silent treatment? Oh well...
Not much more to say I suppose. You forfeited your turn and I could counter you by forfeitin mine but I don't feel like doing that.
Mayo is better than flowers and deserves to be AFC ROY because of that.
Since you didn't argue I guess you agree with me!
Miami95 said 12/23, 11:51 PM
Well I hate when a person who forfits a turn, and if you read coment 26 you'll see why.
While Mayo might have 114+ tackles you might want to ask your self why? look at the teams he's played against, teams than run, run, run. As it stands yes the Pats have the better record but they would have the same record even if they dident have Mayo; better qb and offence. Thanks for pointhing out Flowers has two picks in the same game against Brett Favre and the Jets who just played them selves out of the playoffs, better than the Chiefs both are going to be playing golf while Miami or the Pats are in the Post season. Also one of his picks was a pick 6. The final socre of that game was 24-28 with the Jets on top, with out that pick it would have been 17-28 he helped them almost rally back; has Mayo done that? Flowers will be able to look back at his life and say my rookie year I picked off a HOF'er in his last year TWICE!! Mayo tackled a bunch of guys, no sacks! For Flowers to have the same FF as a Linebacker is sad. Your guy will win ROY bc of the team record if both team had same record it would be a tough call; guy who makes points on D or guy who just tackles. Flowers a sleeper pick.
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