- 02/03/2009, 10:06AM ET
Dragon44 said 02/03, 10:06 AM
this is why Lucky Luc was the best:
1. After scoring 191 points in his final junior year and being named Canadian Major Junior Player of the year he ended up being drafted 171st by LA.
2. Broke Johnny Bucyk's record for points by a LW with 1370.
3. Holds the record for most goals by a LW with 653.
4. Recorded the most points in a season by a LW with 125.
Granted this is not Gretzky or Lemieux type numbers but still the best by a LW. So until Alex the Gr8 reaches this lofty total Luc is still the king...
Baun-ded=PH in MOTION said 02/03, 11:21 AM
Did you title this the highest career scoring Left winger in NHL history?
No, you didn't.
It is distinctly entitled...
Luc Robitaille was the best LW to play in the NHL
The BEST LEFT WINGER by any stretch of the imagination was definately Bobby Hull, the Golden Jet.
Note: Son Brett played right wing.
Bobby didn't just dominate the position for 10 years, he dominated the entire NHL and was voted "Player of the Decade".
He set new goal scoring records by becoming the first to break the then seemingly impossible 50 goal mark!
He lead the NHL in goals 7 times & gpg 8 times over a 1063 game NHL career. In 366 fewer games than Luk, he recorded 610g-570a-1170 pts. Ony 58 fewer goals than Luc.
A 10 time FIRST TEAM all-star and member of the Greatest All-Canadian team ever with Gretzky, Howe, Orr & Harvey.
Luc played in an era of hight scoring hockey which also got him a spot beside the greatest points producer in NHL history, GWG!
The CBH were a poor NHL cousin constantly facing the mighty Habs, Leafs, Wings on a weekly basis.
Hull brought fans to their feet, sold out arena's where ever he played & was a key component of the NHL 1967 expansion into other U.S markets.
Dragon44 said 02/03, 12:36 PM
ahhh, B.H. how could I forget about the Golden Jet...granted he was the best of his era and could that boy fly but the numbers speak for themselves...but to belittle what Luc accomplished because he played in a high scoring era is like saying Gretzky was better than Orr...
Baun-ded=PH in MOTION said 02/04, 01:56 AM
So the numbers speak for themselves do they?
Compare both players best goal years.
Bobby- 1968-69- 58 goals in 74 games-NHL GPG avg. 5.8
Lucky- 1992-93- 63 goals in 80 games-NHL GPG avg. 7.18
Want to compare evenly?
Here's a little formula.
7.18 divided by 5.8=1.237
Now divide Lucky's goals
63 by 1.237=50 goals
Now, tell me again who was the more prolific scorer when you level the field?
Bobby with 8 more goals in 6 fewer games!
The point is, era's do matter. Regardless of the fact that Bobby still beats Luc straight up in GPG/PPG career. Bobby had 5, 50+g yrs. Luc only 3.
Next: Rookie players were eased into the NHL in the 60's the 1st couple of yrs, it didn't matter how good they were. The reason, learn to RESPECT the game & protect them! Something Luc never had to worry about.
Hull was signed as a 13 yr old kid to the CBH organization.
Luc drafted 171st in 9th rd.
Comparing Luc to The Golden Jet is like comparing Coffey to Number 4. The career stats don't mean spit and certainly don't speak for themselves.
Pretty much like your 2nd argument, it can't.
Bobby is regarded as one of the All-Time greats!
Baun-ded=PH in MOTION said 02/05, 02:47 AM
Well, based on the voting so far & the fact you have just commited a major TD No-No by forfeiting your final argument, I won't push this any harder.
I will even resist the urge to Zing you as you are new and have demonstrated that you are not just some homer come lately and have definately been around the game for a while.
I hope you stay with it.
On a final note, there are only a handful of all-time greats that I would consider in a high enough regard to play & also dominate in any era. Other's that we consider great would not fair so well in other times. Luc would fall into the latter & Hull the former catagory in my humble opinion.
The NHL of the 50's,60's-70's was a very scary & tough place to play.
It was a time when men were men and sheep were scared.
Hull was truly an all-time great with huge heart. A characteristic that doesn't show up on a stat page.
A true testement to Hull was when he laced up for Team Canada in 1976 at age 37. 1st Canada Cup. He was the most dominant forward on the ice versus the rest of the Worlds Best!
His direct & indirect impact on the game is still felt today, many just don't realize how much!
But that's another story...
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