- 02/07/2009, 07:32PM ET
Mets Fan: said 02/07, 07:32 PM
Hyped and I took part in a fantasy draft.
We are tding on the teams we drafted.
State first, argue 2nd and 3rd.
PG- Steve Nash
SG- Michael Redd
SF- Kevin Durant
PF- Antawn Jamison
C- Al Jefferson
6th- Shawn Marion
Good Luck Hyped!
Hyped78 said 02/07, 08:07 PM
I just want to clear one thing first: the ENTIRE careers for these players count, not just this year.
Here is the team I drafted:
PG - Baron Davis
SG - Rip Hamilton
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Yao Ming
6th man - Manu Ginobili
We'll leave the comparisons for the following arguments, I guess.
Good luck Mets Fan!
Mets Fan: said 02/07, 08:42 PM
Steve Nash vs. Baron Davis
Steve Nash is a great, versatile point guard. He deserves the 2 MVP awards and 6 all star games he has to his name.
Meanwhile, Baron Davis has neither.
Head to head, Nash leads in points, assists, 3P%, FG%, and rebounds.
Nash makes the game interesting. He finds the open guy, makes the plays when they count. Both are good players, but Nash is just.... better.
Michael Redd vs. Rip Hamilton
Something must be wrong if Hamilton is not in the starting lineup anymore. This just goes to show that Hamilton has lost his touch.
On the other hand, Michael Redd hasn't. He has a beautiful shot with an amazing quick release.
Rip Hamilton has been playing longer than Redd, and they are neck and neck with stats. This shows how Redd has improved and will continue to do so. Redd is the better player.
Other comparisons coming up next.
Hyped78 said 02/07, 09:55 PM
Nash versus Baron Davis is a comparison I am not even getting into, as you win.
But Rip Hamilton vs Michael Redd? Sorry, but there you lose.
Rip has been to the All-star game 3 times to Redd's lone appearance.
When you say that Rip has been playing for a longer period, it's as if you don't know that their difference in age is of a single year.
Rip has won a championship, been to the NBA Finals on another occasion, and for these last years has been one of the best players on a team that has made it to the East Conf Finals each and every year.
My Paul Pierce tops your Kevin Durant.
Durant is still young and growing, will eventually turn out to be a star.
But, as it stands, Paul Pierce's career is just better any way you look at it.
All-Star appearances, great play and leadership and now even a championship ring to back it up.
Carlos Boozer is one of the premier, elite, PFs in the league.
Your Jamison is good, but he's not in the same category as Booz.
Last year Boozer was selected to the All-NBA 3rd team.
Jamison has never been selected All-NBA.
The 2 remaining comparisons in the 3rd argument, but I think I also win both of those.
Mets Fan: said 02/07, 10:07 PM
All star games are popularity contests.
But, back to my argument.
Kevin Durant is playing great this year. He's averaging 25.3 PPG, 6.6 RPG.
You talk about leadership. Well, Durant has it. He is the heart of the Oklahoma City Thunder. He leads the team.
And well, Pierce is great and all, but if he had leadership, then why didn't the Celtics get into the playoffs when they didn't have Garnett or Allen? It seems like Allen and Garnett brought leadership, not Pierce. Right now, Durant is better.
If we're talking right now, my team is far better. Your team has better experience, but that doesn't mean they're better.
Carlos Boozer is too injury prone. Also, Millsap is playing so great that Boozer will likely see a decrease in minutes. On the other hand, Jamison is a double double guy, who gives you his all night after night.
Jamison is worth more, Boozer an off the court struggle.
Al Jefferson doesn't get nearly the amount of credit he deserves. He leads that T-Wolves team and is a double double machine. The Celtics should be ashamed that they got rid of him.
And if we're talking career like you say, Marion no doubt is better than Ginobli.
Hyped78 said 02/08, 11:01 AM
"All-Star games are popularity contests"
For the starters? Yes. For the bench players? No, because the fans aren't selecting them.
"why didn't the Celtics get into the playoffs when they didn't have Garnett or Allen?" (Pierce)
For the same reason your Kevin Durant isn't going to the playoffs. In fact, Durant's Thunder are one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.
Kevin Durant and Al Jefferson are young stars on the rise. But both do not compare to the guys I have.
Paul Pierce is probably the 2nd best SF in the league, behind LeBron.
And Yao is the best pure C not named "Dwight Howard".
But the funniest part is when you say "And if we're talking career like you say, Marion no doubt is better than Ginobli"
Do you honestly believe that?!
Ginobili has 3 NBA rings and an Olympic gold medal as captain of Argentina.
Manu was selected All-NBA (3rd team) in 07-08. Marion has never been an All-NBA selection.
His contribution to the Spurs has been invaluable. He's one of the main reasons why they have won 3 rings, being a part of their big 3 along with Duncan and Parker.
At least I was honest in saying, from the start, that Nash tops Baron Davis!!
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