- 02/14/2009, 11:31AM ET
MNY: Cut Corp said 02/14, 11:31 AM
Look we all know these odds will change after the draft and free agency. But for now for those who refuse to give up on football debate this...
Pick a team who is at least a 35/1 underdog who you feel has the best chance to win the superbowl.
There are 13 teams to choose from. Please argue based off of current rosters, Don't say well if this team gets this guy in free agency... (etc)
My Choice is the Washington Redskins.
Although they went only 8-8 last year, they showed both flashes of brillance through out the season. Most QB's struggle within their first year learning a new offensive system, I feel Jason Campbell will be more productive this coming season. The redskins have a good o-line and the perfect combination of talented veterans (s. moss, randle el, Cooley, Portis) and up and coming players (Devin Thomas and Fred Davis). Their offense should be very successful and more consistent during their 2nd year under Zorn.
I will discuss their defense in my 2nd argument.
Nickb23 - Holland has arrived! said 02/14, 12:18 PM
What is the first step necessary to being a Super Bowl team?
Making the playoffs, right?
Look at the Arizona Cardinals, easy division got hot at the right time, made the Super Bowl.
Then you have the Patriots, tough division, bet the crap out of Arizona but miss the playoffs.
I bring this up because the Redskins are very unlikely to even sniff the playoffs. Every team in the division has 14-1 odds or better. Every team ahead of them is still improving also.
My pick is in a division with only one team with better odds than them and they are 30-1. My pick has 50-1 odds but is only a few seasons removed from a Super Bowl trip with the QB they have right now.
The Seattle Seahawks.
They went through receivers and QB's like Porkins does cheeseburgers. One after another went down.
They have a new coach, great draft position and a wealth of guys hungry to get back to the top of that division. Obviously you can not predict injuries and a healthy Seattle team with some good young draft picks can definitely be back on top of that division. Anquan wants out of Arizona, which may lead to the departure of Kurt as well.
Once the playoffs start, all bets are off......
MNY: Cut Corp said 02/14, 12:29 PM
The Seattle Seahawks have one of the worst offensive lines in football. Their best Lineman Robbie Tobeck was injured and inconsistent for all of the last year. Matt Hasselback has been sacked a total of 237 times in his career.
Even before he hurt his back he was playing inconsistent.
Matt's last season 5 Tds 10 Pics 57.8 RTG
Are those superbowl numbers?
Seattle's window to win a championship has run out. Every other team in the division is improving more then them. The Cardinals and 49ers have the best chance of winning the NFC West.
Having a good offensive Line and a good quarterback is neccesary to win a championship. The seahawks allowed 35 sacks last year and actually played worse at the end of the season. The Cards and 49ers ended the season with good momentum and should build on their success next year.
Nickb23 - Holland has arrived! said 02/14, 12:52 PM
"Their best Lineman Robbie Tobeck was injured and inconsistent for all of the last year"
I would like to introduce you to 9 time pro bowler (including 8 in a row) Walter Jones, left tackle for the Seahawks. But beside that you continue to prove my point, injuries can ruin a season for a football team. As it did for Tobeck, Jones and Many, many other Seahawks.
"Even before he hurt his back he was playing inconsistent"
I would like to introduce you to Michael Bumpus, Courtney Taylor, Billy McMullen and Logan Payne. No seriously do you know who they are cause Matt Hasselbeck didn't either? Those are UNDRAFTED wideouts he was throwing passes to.
Enter Michael Crabtree on Draft day and a healthy Branch, Burleson and Engram along with rookie phenom John Carlson and Hasselbeck returns to form.
"The seahawks allowed 35 sacks last year"
Considering injuries that isn't bad, 12 teams allowed more including your Redskins pick and the 49ers allowed 20 more sacks than them.
Hasselbeck had a bad season with no help but as I stated below righting off a QB too early has proven to be a mistake many wish they didn't make. ie. Warner, Collins, Pennington and soon Hasselbeck...
MNY: Cut Corp said 02/14, 01:02 PM
I'm not saying Hasselback is finished, I am saying with the CURRENT players on the roster that the Redskins are more likely to win the superbowl. I'm not saying well if they draft... then they should win the superbowl. (reread my first post)
If you break down the film you will see that many of the sacks were Campbell's fault. (He held onto the ball way to long) Now that he is more familiar with the west coast offense and his reads, he will be able to get rid of the ball quicker. The redskins line is good enough to contend. They have quality running backs like Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts, Seattle's best running back is their fb Weaver. Would you rather have Portis or Julius Jones? Bobby Engram or Randle El and Moss?
Based off the current players Washington is better then Seattle. Of course if a team has a good draft their odds will go up. Right now Seattle's offense needs to much work in order to predict them to win the superbowl. The Redskins with their current players have enough talent to make it.
Nickb23 - Holland has arrived! said 02/14, 01:15 PM
What is that, you ask?
The final record of both of these football teams over the last 8 weeks af the season.
When exactly did the Redskins get better? During the Pro Bowl, Playoffs? When I ask you?
They didn't, that is the answer. The Seahawks had injuries, what is the Redskins excuse?
"If you break down the film you will see that many of the sacks were Campbell's fault. (He held onto the ball way to long) Now that he is more familiar with the west coast offense and his reads."
In the first 8 games he was sacked 16 times. In the last 8 he was sacked 22 times. Your right he got better at holding on to the ball too long, not checking down to his reads.
The Seahawks don't have to have a better RB than the Skins, they play in an easier division and have a much more proven veteran QB who has been to a Super Bowl before.
The Redskins closed out 2-6 with all of the key players on their football team still healthy, so NO they do not have the talent to make the playoffs much less a Super Bowl.
The Seahawks have a valid and fixable excuse for a bad season, the Redskins do NOT.....
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