Green Bay made the right choice cutting Favre

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November 04, 2009 12:08 AM ET
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WADE said 11/04, 12:08 AM
I the time the Packers had to make thier choice, they chose wisely.
I mean, if you were going to take another chance with a 40 year old instead of begining to build a new franchise with a young QB, you would be stupid.

heres the stupid team: "ok now Brett, we'll let you play again and keep Rodgers waiting until you feel you should retire again. even if that means finding out you don't want to play in september."

heres the wise team(Packers):"see ya, it was nice winning a super bowl with you but Rodgers is ready and willing to learn and your not even sure when you'll stop playing. So we are going to invest in a promising QB."

Nothing against Favre, I am only saying packers were smart in there choice and it will prove correct in the long run as favre retires and the packers have a QB playing at his best.

TDQ said 11/04, 01:00 AM
What we know now.

Favre is still capable of playing a kids game when healthy and is better then most QBs currently in the NFL. What happened last year with the Jets is being proven that Favre was seriously hurt to truly bring the Jets to a higher level.

Back in 2007, the Pack went 13-3 and one overtime game of reaching the Super Bowl and was the 2007 NFC Player of the Year. Your returning key players on offense were Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Ryan Grant & Donald Lee. Very productive players all proven to work well with Favre at the helm.

One game out of the Super Bowl, the 2007 NFC Player of the Year. What do you do? Favre is one of those rare athletes who has proven to be durable even past 35 years old, given the right situation, which Favre was in could still produce in a weaker NFC Conference compared to the tougher AFC Conference.

What do you do?

You find someway to keep a team that was one overtime game away from a Super Bowl, keeping your most important position in football intact. Yes, I do enjoy Rodgers but you let a legend that still can play to high levels finnish out his career properly - MTC.

WADE said 11/04, 01:40 PM
Now that you have stated the obvious, yea Favre is good, one of the greatest... we all know this.

just because you were a team that almost made the playoffs does not mean your bound to repeat the same performance next season.

I would not take a risk on a 40 year old even if he was great past 35 years old when I have the future to think about with Aaron Rodgers, a well devoloped athlete.

If the packers would have kept Favre he would have played good but not good enough to do better than the previous year, agree? So the packers would have had a good season again but still a disapointment. Then Farve would have retired again and re-instated again and the Packers would have had to go through the same decisions and this time most likely cut Favre due to his age and unstable "mind". Then the team would have to start playing Rodgers from scratch a year later leaving thier rebuilding process delayed.

The Packers have just been rebuilding with a new QB, don't expect them to beat Favre and A. Peterson.
Rodgers is 25 and he is going to get better, the packers took that chance to play him and now its going to pay off in the next few seasons as he plays better and better.

TDQ said 11/04, 02:22 PM
Once in a lifetime.

How many chances do you get to see a Jordan, a Gretzky, how about a Babe Ruth?

2005. That's when Rodgers was drafted. 07 the Packers go all the way to the NFC Championship game & lose in OT. If the Packers had been patient with Favre & he chose to come back, Farve would have played for possibly 3 solid years bearing an injury & then retire. It's now only been 2 years since Favre left the Packers, which QB is 7-1? Which QB almost brought their team to the playoffs in 2008 if he hadn't gotten injured?

Take away your emotions & think with your head & not your broken heart like a jilted ex-lover, you'll know that the Packers should have allowed Favre to come back. Not because of his name, but because he was the NFC Player of the Year & that your team with him was one overtime game away from the SB. Do you waste that chance to take several steps backwards? No.

You talk about rebuilding, what did the Packers have to rebuild in 07, a team that came up 1 game short? Rodgers is only 25, yes your right, how old was Steve Young when he finally became the starter for the 49ers? 29 yrs old. Why rush to replace the key component? Haste makes waste.

WADE said 11/05, 10:45 AM
Jordan at 40 or babe Ruth at 40?
you think they would have played up to expectations?
All I'm saying is the age does have a factor just in case you didn't noticed.

I already argued what would take place if Favre had come back to the Packers, the chances of him playing in the super bowl were no better than the year before if that.

You say Favre would play 3 more years, and where would that leave Green Bay after Favre FINALLY RETIRED? that would mean finally starting Rodgers at 26 years of age being a first year starter instead of a 3 year starter, the team would be a bit behind with Rodgers being a newbee.
I say to don't rush... DON'T WASTE TIME

Your in make believe land bud, get over the fact that Green Bay decided to move on and not stay in a drama filled saga with Favre year after year.
There is a time to move on and stop taking chances with a player who is going to reach his limit soon and take your chances with a young fresh QB.

TDQ said 11/06, 02:03 AM
WADE said: I say to don't rush... DON'T WASTE TIME

I guess it does make sense to get rid of your key player on Offense, your QB who still looks like he can still play better than most QBs in the current NFL league. Winning the NFC Player of the Year doesn't give you any credit or validation of performing well on your team? Ok, you brought us to within one game of the Super Bowl, no big deal - out the door you go.

I don't need to get over What Green Bay did to Favre, but I do hope my Pats don't treat our Brady the way the Packers have treated their living legend who is haunting them until this very day. You can have Rodgers and his stats, but give me a winner, a QB that wins with the final drive and is willing to take a chance at glory then a QB that gives you Fantasy numbers.

Yes there is a time to move on, but in reality, it looks like the Packers moved in the wrong direction. Why would any Franchise not be patient with a QB that earned the NFC Player of the Year and only was 1 game away from the Super Bowl? Get pass your emotions that cloud your judgement and you will realize that treating Favre the way that Green Bay did was just untimely.

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November 4, 2009 12:18 AM ET

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I agree it was the right choice. Rodgers was ready to start and Brett didn't know what he wanted from moment to moment. He had changed his mind already once in that off season.

I also don't think Brett would be playing nearly as well as Rodgers has behind that "Swiss Cheese" offensive line the Packers have. I have seen that guy just start winging passes into triple coverage when under pressure.

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November 4, 2009 12:59 AM ET

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Blog, please.

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November 4, 2009 02:14 AM ET

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Brett's indecisiveness, egomania, and string of lies meant that they absolutely made the right choice in cutting him.

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November 4, 2009 02:47 AM ET

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Definitely the right choice. Had they not started playing Rodgers when they did, he probably walks as a free agent and is starring somewhere else. Meanwhile GB has maybe 3 extra seasons with him and has to suddenly find another QB of the future.

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November 4, 2009 04:59 AM ET

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I would have kept him were it not for the indecisiveness. That alone made it the right choice. I agree that it was Rodgers turn to take over the team, but in different circumstances(those being Favre making his mind up about returning and busting his ass through training camp) I would have stuck with the future Hall of Famer.

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November 4, 2009 06:43 AM ET

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November 4, 2009 07:40 AM ET

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Ok.. where was the memo?

I was under the impression the Packers didn't 'cut' favre at all. He wavered, they forced his hand, he said he retired. There was no 'cutting' involved.

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November 4, 2009 08:14 AM ET

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Well, my thoughts go something like this: If your future hall of fame quarterback who has been the face of your organization for 16 years says he isn't sure he can play a season, and is honest enough to tell you that up front, you allow him to make the decision on his time. I don't understand all the vilification of Favre on this issue. He's obviously got love for the game. But it has to be hard to know at near 40 if you're going to be able to play at a high level for another year.

I sort of understand Green Bay's decision to trade Favre, if he was a guy that was new to the team or that they weren't sure of. But he was coming off one of his better seasons, and he's the face of your organization. Who cares if the guy waffles every year. He's earned the right to waffle, hasn't he? It isn't like he's taking the team for a ride. He is telling them honestly that he is not sure. I think Favre's biggest issue is that he has been too honest with everyone about the decision making process. If he had just shut up and not said anything, he would have better served himself in the public's eye. But because he was forced into a decision and then changed his mind... people say nasty things about him.

For me, I think he's just a guy who says what he feels and doesn't care about popular opinion very much. He seems to truly believe that his play on the field should stand for itself and I think it does. Anyway, if I were the Packers GM or coach, I would have let Favre return as often as he felt like he could still outplay the new guy.

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November 4, 2009 08:28 AM ET

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i'm sorry, but fav-re would never survive behind Green Bay's current o-line.

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November 4, 2009 11:24 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:14 AM ET 11.04 by VikeInNC

Well, my thoughts go something like this: If your future hall of fame quarterback who has been the face of your organization for 16 years says he isn't sure he can play a season, and is honest enough to tell you that up front, you allow him to make the decision on his time. I don't understand all the vilification of Favre on this issue. He's obviously got love for the game. But it has to be hard to know at near 40 if you're going to be able to play at a high level for another year. I sort of understand Green Bay's decision to trade Favre, if he was a guy that was new to the team or that they weren't sure of. But he was coming off one of his better seasons, and he's the face of your organization. Who cares if the guy waffles every year. He's earned the right to waffle, hasn't he? It isn't like he's taking the team for a ride. He is telling them honestly that he is not sure. I think Favre's biggest issue is that he has been too honest with everyone about the decision making process. If he had just shut up and not said anything, he would have better served himself in the public's eye. But because he was forced into a decision and then changed his mind... people say nasty things about him. For me, I think he's just a guy who says what he feels and doesn't care about popular opinion very much. He seems to truly believe that his play on the field should stand for itself and I think it does. Anyway, if I were the Packers GM or coach, I would have let Favre return as often as he felt like he could still outplay the new guy.

Bro, those are valid points.

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November 4, 2009 11:28 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:14 AM ET 11.04 by VikeInNC

Well, my thoughts go something like this: If your future hall of fame quarterback who has been the face of your organization for 16 years says he isn't sure he can play a season, and is honest enough to tell you that up front, you allow him to make the decision on his time. I don't understand all the vilification of Favre on this issue. He's obviously got love for the game. But it has to be hard to know at near 40 if you're going to be able to play at a high level for another year. I sort of understand Green Bay's decision to trade Favre, if he was a guy that was new to the team or that they weren't sure of. But he was coming off one of his better seasons, and he's the face of your organization. Who cares if the guy waffles every year. He's earned the right to waffle, hasn't he? It isn't like he's taking the team for a ride. He is telling them honestly that he is not sure. I think Favre's biggest issue is that he has been too honest with everyone about the decision making process. If he had just shut up and not said anything, he would have better served himself in the public's eye. But because he was forced into a decision and then changed his mind... people say nasty things about him. For me, I think he's just a guy who says what he feels and doesn't care about popular opinion very much. He seems to truly believe that his play on the field should stand for itself and I think it does. Anyway, if I were the Packers GM or coach, I would have let Favre return as often as he felt like he could still outplay the new guy.

Agreed.....

But I'll wait for all arguments before I vote.

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November 4, 2009 11:30 AM ET

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Originally posted 12:59 AM ET 11.04 by IFlingPoo

Blog, please.

this is an argument.

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November 4, 2009 11:31 AM ET

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In my opinion, I think it was right to release favre and let rodgers take hold of the team. Favre is still playing great BUT as favre gets older, so does Rodgers, imagine holding on to rodgers for 7 years before he makes his first start.

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November 4, 2009 12:08 PM ET

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People seem to forget that Favre's play falls of the second half of the season and it wasn't just last year. You can go back the last five and his INTs increase after week 10 and rating goes in the toilet. You have to be able to play a full 16 games and I am not sure he can anymore.

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November 4, 2009 12:19 PM ET

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favre sucks

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November 4, 2009 01:00 PM ET

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Farve single handedly lost the Packers their last two chances to make it to the Superbowl. Remember when it was 3rd and Long in OT and Farve threw a deep Pass to Driver in triple coverage? Oh yeah That was Forced Pass that led to the game ending INT. He is a selfish **** that held the Packers Hostage while he toyed with them. But they should have kept them because he's having a Good season handing the Ball off to Adrian Peterson, only reason why he's able to pass is because the teams got to stop the run first. Farve sucks and his time is almost up.

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November 4, 2009 01:03 PM ET

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I looked something up:

In the game against GB, Favre threw 4 TD's. Thos 4 TD's, the ball traveled in air a total of 47 yards. The WR's broke a total of 6 tackles, and had 98 YAC.

Sure his numbers look great, but his WR and GB inability to tackle were a bigger reason behind those TD's than Favre's arm.

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November 4, 2009 01:11 PM ET

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Originally posted 01:03 PM ET 11.04 by BiscuitHead

I looked something up:In the game against GB, Favre threw 4 TD's. Thos 4 TD's, the ball traveled in air a total of 47 yards. The WR's broke a total of 6 tackles, and had 98 YAC. Sure his numbers look great, but his WR and GB inability to tackle were a bigger reason behind those TD's than Favre's arm.

Minnesota's WRs really have stepped up unfortanetly.

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November 4, 2009 01:12 PM ET

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I don't think they cut Farve but they forced him to make a decision earlier then he wanted to. The reason being is you can't keep a young QB who you drafted to replace your current QB on the bench until he leaves. Then you have no QB.

Farve felt pressure so he retired. Then decided he didn't want to retire and came back. What bugs me about Farve is he then did it again. He should be thinking about this decision before the season ends not a week before the season starts.

Either way I think GB was right in pushing the issue. If Farve had said he will stay I'm sure they would have been happy with that as well.

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November 4, 2009 01:21 PM ET

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Originally posted 11:31 AM ET 11.04 by Beefskins:I miss Porkins

In my opinion, I think it was right to release favre and let rodgers take hold of the team. Favre is still playing great BUT as favre gets older, so does Rodgers, imagine holding on to rodgers for 7 years before he makes his first start.

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