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  • November 05, 2009 11:04 PM ET

Compile The Best Pitching Rotation Over The Past 25 Years

BoSox1045K (7-28-1) vs MTC Ryan Leaf!! (94-89-6)
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Compile the best pitching rotation consistent of players who have played the past twenty-five years. Five starters, and one closer. (I dont want to hear any discussion about steroids on here either) List first argue second.

1) Pedro Martinez
2) Greg Maddux
3) Roger Clemens
4) Randy Johnson
5) Dwight Gooden

CL) Mariano Rivera


1.) Pedro Martinez

2.) Randy Johnson

3.) Roger Clemens

4.) Tom Glavine

5.) John Smoltz

CL Rivera

So thats two changes good luck.


I can somewhat understand the Gooden extract. But how are you can you honestly leave Greg Maddux off the list? What refutes that even more is the fact that Maddux was the ace of the Atlanta Brave's staff..... The same staff Smoltz and Glavine were on. It can be argued he was the best pitcher of the past fifty years, he was most certainly the best on the Braves.

Maddux
355-227/ 3.16 ERA/ 3,371 K's/ .610 W-L%

Glavine
305-203/ 3.54ERA/ 2,607 K's/ .600 W-L%

Smoltz
213-159/ 3.33 ERA/ 3,084 K's/ .579 W-L%


I'll Argue the Gooden selection in my next argument.


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November 5, 2009  11:05 PM ET

Good luck to who ever accepts.....

November 5, 2009  11:15 PM ET

If I was not going on a hike this weekend, I would take this. I see one obvious change and at least one other change, especially since this is a rotation not necessarily the top 5.

November 5, 2009  11:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

If I was not going on a hike this weekend, I would take this. I see one obvious change and at least one other change, especially since this is a rotation not necessarily the top 5.

I know who your thinking to take off......And its not as obvious as you think.

November 5, 2009  11:21 PM ET

how many changes do u want?

November 5, 2009  11:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I know who your thinking to take off......And its not as obvious as you think.

As a fan of the team of the person I think you are thinking of, he does not deserve to be on the list. He was not dominate long enough. I would take a player off the current roster of the team instead and potentially 2 former pitchers from the same team.

November 5, 2009  11:25 PM ET

I'd like to see to two.....But if it's two hard one change is fine.

November 5, 2009  11:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

As a fan of the team of the person I think you are thinking of, he does not deserve to be on the list. He was not dominate long enough. I would take a player off the current roster of the team instead and potentially 2 former pitchers from the same team.

He was better than both of those guys, just didnt have the longer career......Did two of those guys happen to play with a certain pitcher on my list?

November 5, 2009  11:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

He was better than both of those guys, just didnt have the longer career......Did two of those guys happen to play with a certain pitcher on my list?

One did, too bad he was not good enough for the team we are talking about.

November 5, 2009  11:38 PM ET

he really only had that one year.....i dont think you can really include him for one year.

November 6, 2009  12:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

he really only had that one year.....i dont think you can really include him for one year.

He was pretty good for three years....Plus that one year was one the greatests ever.

November 6, 2009  01:18 AM ET

Roger Clemens
Randy Johnson
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Pedro Martinez

Cl Mariano Rivera

November 6, 2009  01:20 AM ET

and if you went back a bit futher it would be tom Seaver instead of Glavine

November 7, 2009  01:31 AM ET

No love for Curt Schilling circa 2001?

November 7, 2009  09:40 AM ET

Just an obvious comment. it's good to see a td where both left and right are gentlemen, and people are stating their opinions without calling others morons. I think a td like this is one of the most interesting. It's like saying, okay, name your all-time outfield among anyone who ever played that position. You can make an awful lot of arguments for players, there's an embarrassment of riches as the saying goes.

November 7, 2009  09:43 AM ET

Pedro
Maddux
Rocket
Unit
Glavine

Mariano

November 7, 2009  10:25 AM ET

Maddux
Clemens
Pedro
Unit
Smoltz

Rivera

November 7, 2009  10:26 AM ET

Came pretty close to throwing Halladay or Schilling on this list...

November 7, 2009  11:22 AM ET

Smoltz over Glavine?

Yeah, I guess I could see that.....

November 7, 2009  11:52 AM ET

Halladay would have a spot on my lsit. Amazing stats for playing on a sub .500 team for most of his career. If he played for yankees or Red Sox he'd on everyones list.

 
November 7, 2009  12:00 PM ET

Ryan Leaf, any more word on our website?

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