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  • November 07, 2009 08:36 PM ET

Nascar is on a downhill spiral, who will be able to pull it out?

Floatman-U Turkey! (10-2-1) vs Hersh:Go Vikings:Cavs (16-47-8)
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Nascar has screwed themselves, They have added so many rules, non of ther drivers can figure them out, besides that, they are inconsistent in enforcing the rules.
They have created cars, COT, that are safe, but also non personal and non functional.
Drivers are now to drive a clone race car that can't be manipulated to the personal driving ability of the driver. Change the tire pressure, and a small set up option.
These are not race cars, they are a product of mass production.


I will agree with you that some of their rules are confusing....but most of their rules are for the safety of the drivers as they go 180 mph. almost every week...The COT is also supposed to help that....the reason Talledega and Daytona have restrictor plates is for safety...would you like to be going 210 mph. and smack the wall...I know i wouldn't.....The rules that Nascar has created is not only to keep the drivers safe but to make the racing better and more exciting....

The COT i will agree with you are like a clone car but also for safety....they do have downfalls with adjustments....because there are very few that you can do but the drivers are driving just as good of car as earlier in Nascar.....These cars are made so that the structure of the car will take the mostt impact not the driver.......

More to come......


The building of the COT has given the racers a safer car.
The COT along with Nascar has taken most of the personalization from the teams and the drivers.
The new cars haven't solved the flying effect that happens when cars spin in reverse.
The new cars haven't improved good racing for the fans.

If Nascar doesn't listen to the fans and drivers, make changes to create excitement for the fans, their existence is domed.


Many people as me and my dad watch Nascar every week not because they go fast or the new COT car but because we like rooting for our favorite drivers.....Would you rather have safety keeping the drivers safe and continue the sport or racers getting seriously injured because of low safety?.....If Nascar were to listen to the fans there would be so much conflict between the drivers that the racing would plain stink.....Fans most of the time just watch to see flips and big wrecks.....The COT is also making the drivers better by not giving them as much to adjust and its most of the time all drivers which can make the racing exciting......


I am all for safety, like you I want to root for my favorite driver, (lately that hurts a bit).

Let me get back to, "Nascar is on a downhill spiral"

I just think Nascar as taken the personalization out of the cars and teams hands.
To be a top race team you have to have a crew of engineers to find the smallest of hidden speed, handling, etc.
I don't like the chase, the points system I don't like the lucky Dog.
I do like double line restarts.

I hope 2010 brings some changes that are positive to both the cars and system.
Here comes Danika!

Hersh, Thanks for taking my 1st Throw down, I gotta lot to learn!


I love the double file restarts it makes the racing better early in the race and after a caution...The points system is stupid yea but still if you are going to be 1st in points you might as well have the most wins.....The Lucky Dog is ok i mean if you get wrecked because of s stupid driver and become a lap down and race your butt off to get it back this gives you a little reward for trying super hard......

No Problem i had a blast TDing against you...!!!!

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November 7, 2009  08:52 PM ET
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good luck

November 7, 2009  08:57 PM ET
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Originally posted 08:52 PM ET  11.07 by Hersh:Go Vikings:Cavs

good luck

Like the Cowboys, I'm gonna need it! LOLO

November 7, 2009  09:11 PM ET
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23.9 hours left, and I'm already down a vote!

November 7, 2009  10:51 PM ET
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Doomed! Damn, It is late for a old man!

November 7, 2009  11:03 PM ET
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Floatman is right. Safety is unimportant. They should not be allowed to wear helmets either. Shades and baseball caps only.

November 7, 2009  11:25 PM ET
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Uh, Yea, what he said! LOL
I'm all for safety, I'm just for giving the drivers back a bit of control in how the car runs and responds.
What's next Robot/remote control drivers?
Guerss I should have saved that for the response!

November 7, 2009  11:52 PM ET
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Are you Crazy Nascar has never been better, they have huge TV deals, they are now getting all the open wheel drivers coming over here, Danica is next and she will only give it more exposure.....Where are you getting your info

November 8, 2009  12:16 AM ET
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Originally posted 11:52 PM ET  11.07 by azcardsfan

Are you Crazy Nascar has never been better, they have huge TV deals, they are now getting all the open wheel drivers coming over here, Danica is next and she will only give it more exposure.....Where are you getting your info

I would hire a great attorney if I were you. That 18 wheeler that hit you head on owes you a new brain, your is now broken! LOL

November 8, 2009  12:37 AM ET
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Could be worse. Could be F1 who are in crash & burn mode right now.

I never thought IRL would be the most appealing circuit to follow in 2010. Maybe when Danica jumps to NASCAR, IRL will be better without her.

btw, wtf is so special about Danica anyways? There have been female racers for decades + she's whinier than Tonya Harding

November 8, 2009  09:46 AM ET
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Originally posted 11:03 PM ET  11.07 by YODA

Floatman is right. Safety is unimportant. They should not be allowed to wear helmets either. Shades and baseball caps only.

I think burlap sacks would be better.

Rule #589 - No cutting holes in the burlap sacks.

November 8, 2009  11:24 AM ET
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What are you talking about its all about money guys and even with the bad economy Nascar is flourishing give facts not opinion on this one...........Nascar is even popular in the East now its getting ratings even in Boston against the Patriots and Red Sox...... Every race is on TV, even Nationwide............more races than ever are on in primetime, When did that ever happen... so yea if it takes a mack truck to hit me them maybe I should get hit more often.....As for IRL who watches that remember guys its all about Ratings and sponsors and in America where the money is nobody watches IRL or any other circuit but Nascar

November 8, 2009  11:33 AM ET
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I always thought the ''old'' cars were safe enough and they were.. I don't know why Nascar was so hell-bent on bringing the COT out.. For instance when Dale Earnhardt had his wreck and died at Daytona.. would the COT been any safer?? The COT has taken the ''sc" out of Na''sc''ar

November 8, 2009  11:33 AM ET
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azcardsfan, The hit by a truck thing was in Jest. LOL
Nascar is not on the top of it's game now.
If you listen closely, the Fans are mad because the racin is getting real boring. Sponsorships are harder then ever to find because of the economy, The average family can't afford to attend the races, seats are going empty where once full.
This is not the Hay day of Nascar by any means.

November 8, 2009  11:34 AM ET
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I'll wait until final arguments to cast my vote

November 8, 2009  11:44 AM ET
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Float...as long as Brian France is in charge, Nascar will not be on top of it's game. He's an idiot that is only after the dollar for him. Until the sport can do something to reimprove relations with the fans and do something about making the race cars look like street models, they may continue to go downward.

November 8, 2009  08:25 PM ET
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Originally posted 11:52 PM ET  11.07 by azcardsfan

Are you Crazy Nascar has never been better, they have huge TV deals, they are now getting all the open wheel drivers coming over here, Danica is next and she will only give it more exposure.....Where are you getting your info

I agree 100%.

November 8, 2009  08:26 PM ET
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Sports in general are in a downward spiral.

November 9, 2009  03:13 PM ET
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A Tie? look, 4 to 3, I won! Damnit.

November 9, 2009  03:48 PM ET
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a Wiener!

 
November 9, 2009  05:06 PM ET
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I thought I had more time to cast my vote.. but OH WELL!!

<=========.. I would have voted this way though

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