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  • November 08, 2009 09:02 PM ET

1 nonplayoff/non "plus one" solution that would solve the BCS problem.

Tide is ROLLIN! (151-93-22) vs OM= Andrew Luck (94-28-16)
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At years end we could end up with an undefeated Boise State being left out of the championship game to a 1 loss team from a major conference.

The problem is Boise plays the 100th hardest schedule in the nation while Bama and Florida play top 25 schedules.(rivals.com)

SO....how do we fix this WITHOUT a playoff or plus 1?

Let a computer generate schedules.

Each team would keeps its own conference schedules. So a team like Boise would have a weak WAC schedule and Bama would have its usual strong SEC schedule.

But the computer would do what we do when we play NCAA2010. It would adjust the nonconference games to make sure ALL teams play roughly the same level of competition.

So Boise would be able to play a USC or an LSU in their nonconference schedule. To offset LSU's stronger SEC schedule and the addition of a Boise they would be given an instate cupcake game....like Tulane or LA-Monroe. It keeps the $ in the state.

The PC could also rotate teams so that eventually EVERY team will play all the other teams.

This solves the main BCS issue w/o a playoff.


How does this solve anything?

Let's review:

You want a team like Boise State to play a very tough non conference schedule, I understand that.

Yet at the same time, you want teams like LSU, USC, Florida, and so on to play cupcake non conference schedules to reward them for being tough conferences....

Were ok so far, but...

Who do you propose Boise State plays to make their non conference schedule difficult? This can't be done since according to your theory, all the "great" teams will be playing cupcakes in their non conference schedule. Thus, leaving no room for Boise State to play tough teams because all of those teams will be too busy playing the likes of Miami High School and Texas A&M Tech State.

That is a pretty huge flaw in your system as they're is no time for these teams to play each other with your philosophy.


You didn't read the whole thing then.

You would offset a better opponent with a cupcake team. So maybe Bama plays Boise but then instead of playing a Virginia tech (like they did this year)they play Tulane or even a AA school.

The key is that with a computer doing the scheduling it could compute all 116 teams.
We wouldnt have this debate.

You wouldnt have an untested Boise State making claims against Texas or Bama or Florida,...teams that play MUCH harder schedules.




I notice you didn't offer a solution. Any ideas that dont involve playoffs or plus one?


First, lets get this straight, Texas is not one of the teams that plays a much tougher schedule than Boise St. In fact, Boise St. already plays a tougher Non Conference schedule than Texas. And their are 119 teams, not 116.

Anyways, by your logic, wouldn't this be unfair to the BCS conference schools that played Boise? I mean sure, your basically giving them a W the next week against a weak team, but what if they've already lost to Boise? And what if that loss knocks them out of Nat'l Title Contention? Even though they win out in their difficult Conference Schedule. Fans of teams like Florida, Texas, and other big teams that play garbage Non Conference schedules would have a fit if their team was forcd to play Boise St early on in the season.

While I do like the idea to an extent, I don't see how it could ever work.

I mean, teams like Oregon, USC, Ohio State, etc, seem more than willing to play difficult non conference schedules, and possibly this theory of yours could work in that case. (In fact it already is in some cases). But I don't think we'll ever see the day that Boise State plays the likes of Florida as they haven't played a road game outside the south in a decade


1. Boise plays teh 100th strongest schedule. Texas' schedule is in the top 25.

Yes, Boise may play a tougher NONCONFERENCE schedule...but that just proves my point...texas plays MORE games against tougher opponents.


2. You have offered no counter solution


Show me a link, at least one, preferrably two or three in the comments section where Texas is ranked in the top 25 in schedule difficulty. They play two, maybe three tough games a season. With those games being Oklahoma (on a neutral field), Oklahoma State, and on a rare occasion either Mizz, Kansas, or Texas Tech.

My counter solution you ask? Well, as I examine your initial argument, and title of this TD, I see no requirement for me to compose an idea. Thus, I am not required to comply to your request this late in the TD.

Plus, if your excluding the possibility of a playoff, the current system is the best way to do it, as sad as that is to say.

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November 8, 2009  09:13 PM ET
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"The PC could also rotate teams so that eventually EVERY team will play all the other teams.

This solves the main BCS issue w/o a playoff."

November 8, 2009  09:14 PM ET
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Comment 1 continued since I entered it somehow...

How would rotating teams to play every team help? After all, to play all of the other 119 schools it would take roughly 30 seasons to accomplish this...What good is that?

Although the idea is an interesting one.

November 8, 2009  09:25 PM ET
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So SOS is now somewhat even, this still doesn't solve the head to head scenario like what happened to Texas last year...

The only thing is... I can't come up with anything

November 8, 2009  09:44 PM ET
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3 Teams, 1 Game.

November 8, 2009  09:52 PM ET
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Originally posted 09:44 PM ET  11.08 by The (Un)Official

3 Teams, 1 Game.

Yeah, make the football field a big triangle.

November 8, 2009  10:54 PM ET
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This is interesting. I kinda like it, though I hardly think that it would solve BCS issues.

November 8, 2009  10:55 PM ET
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Originally posted 10:54 PM ET  11.08 by wtnelson = Big Chief

This is interesting. I kinda like it, though I hardly think that it would solve BCS issues.

It doesn't make sense.

November 8, 2009  10:58 PM ET
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Originally posted 10:55 PM ET  11.08 by OM= Andrew Luck

It doesn't make sense.

No, but I do like the idea of a computer-generated non-conference schedule. That way I wouldn't have to seem my CSU Rammies play Weber friggin' State every other year.

November 8, 2009  10:58 PM ET
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One thing that they should do is outlaw FBS schools scheduling FCS schools.

November 8, 2009  11:07 PM ET
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Originally posted 10:58 PM ET  11.08 by wtnelson = Big Chief

One thing that they should do is outlaw FBS schools scheduling FCS schools.

I agree 110%

November 8, 2009  11:07 PM ET
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Originally posted 09:44 PM ET  11.08 by The (Un)Official

3 Teams, 1 Game.

lol

November 8, 2009  11:27 PM ET
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Triumph, have you ever been tested to see if you're a full blown **** or just retarded?

November 9, 2009  12:06 AM ET
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If a team like LSU is playing Boise State or TCU or BYU, it wouldn't be a cupcake schedule, right. That's why I'm going left.

November 9, 2009  12:23 AM ET
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Originally posted 09:44 PM ET  11.08 by The (Un)Official

3 Teams, 1 Game.

Yeah have one teams offense vs one defense and send out the thirds special teams. Then rotate each unit on successive possessions. Winner is determined by a hottest cheerleader contest, thus rendering the game pointless and making the viewers the real winners.

November 9, 2009  12:36 AM ET
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Originally posted 10:58 PM ET  11.08 by wtnelson = Big Chief

One thing that they should do is outlaw FBS schools scheduling FCS schools.

I disagree....partially. Its dumb how some schools seem to always have cupcake OOC schedules (Florida), but those games really benefit the FCS schools monetarily. I'd suggest limiting it to NO MORE than 1 per season, or even 2 every 3 years (with one year w/out an FCS team on the schedule).

November 9, 2009  12:41 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:36 AM ET  11.09 by grandslam011

I disagree....partially. Its dumb how some schools seem to always have cupcake OOC schedules (Florida), but those games really benefit the FCS schools monetarily. I'd suggest limiting it to NO MORE than 1 per season, or even 2 every 3 years (with one year w/out an FCS team on the schedule).

I like the idea of no more than 1 per season. However beyond the monetary part for the school, the guys on the cupcake squad do get a huge thrill playing in front of 70,000+. It does have some benefits for both teams.

November 9, 2009  12:46 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:41 AM ET  11.09 by Bannerman

I like the idea of no more than 1 per season. However beyond the monetary part for the school, the guys on the cupcake squad do get a huge thrill playing in front of 70,000+. It does have some benefits for both teams.

Most definitely...I can't imagine the feeling my Georgia Southern Eagles had last year when they played (at the time) #1 Georgia in Sanford Stadium in front of a sold out crowd and didn't get completely blown out of the water by them.

November 9, 2009  01:11 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:06 AM ET  11.09 by rudedog: 9-1 great old man

If a team like LSU is playing Boise State or TCU or BYU, it wouldn't be a cupcake schedule, right. That's why I'm going left.

Not to mention you have 4 OOC games (well, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 do, can't remember how many the others have). Those conferences have plenty of room to schedule one Boise State or other type school, there traditional rival, and then have two cupcakes.

November 9, 2009  03:00 AM ET
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I propose a ranking system based on Points per Game vs. Points allowed. Then you take the top 9 teams, and do a 3 tier round robbin style tournemant. When that is finnished, you then elliminate the team with the worst record and the remaining 8 move on. The remaining 8 will then play a standard double ellimination bracket, but the first team to lose twice will be replaced by the team that was eliminated in the first round.
After all is said and done, you arrange the team alphabetically based on mascot, then subtract their standing after the tournament (#1 = -1) and so forth. The teams are then re-bracketted, for the mascot duel. If you mascot loses a match -5, if your mascot dies in the match -20.
The two teams with the highest total after all of this will play for the trophy and thus be crowned BCS National Champs.

Its really quite simple.

 
November 9, 2009  07:42 AM ET
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Nothing will ever solve the "Problem" with bigtime college football. Every solution overlooks the one big inequity in football called money. Because each school has different financial resources there will never be a solution. The playing field will NEVER be level. This is different than other money sports. Even though the playing field is still not level, small schools are disadvantaged to a smaller degree than when comparing to football.
To field a football team, each school needs approx. sixty players. Plus at least five coaches and another five ass't coaches. To field a "contender", each school needs several future pro's at skill positions and several future pro's at line positions. All that costs money for scholarships, salaries and facilities. There is NO way, that schools like Akron, Nevada, Rice, Central Mich. etc. etc can compete with Texas, Alabama, Ohio St. and other franchise schools. Any of the former schools may make a run by finding and hiring a great young coach, who can recruit, train and guide a school into contention. As soon as that coach has that level of success, he will get hired by a larger more well funded school, which puts the former back at square one.
No matter what scheme we have, the money will always win out. It will ALWAYS be the same dozen schools playing for the NC.
The reason a playoff works in Div II and in NCAA basketball is very simple. The economic difference isn't as great. Small schools like Duke and Wake Forest can compete with Texas and Ohio St in basketball because they only need to several high quality players on the court as opposed to a dozen. They only need one good head coach and a couple of assistants, so the money advantage isn't so overwhelming. Also, in basketball on any given night anyone can beat anyone else. Case in point, LeMoyne over Syracuse or Chaminade over UVa.
Hence whether there is a playoff system or if God comes down and announces the Nat. Champ, it will always be from the same group of twelve or so franchise collleges with an occasional interloper like Boise St.

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