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  • November 09, 2009 12:40 AM ET

Creat A Team

TrailBlazerWA (0-2-3) vs Super Analytical (38-4-0)
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Creat a Major League roster with the best current baseball player at each position.
No DH, 3 non specific OF's (i.e. 2 CF and 1 RF, etc.) 3 SP, and 1 CL.

List players in the first argument and argue the changes in the second and third round.

C) Joe Mauer, Minnesota Twins
1B) Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals
2B) Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox
3B) Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees
SS) Derek Jeter, New York Yankees

OF) Ichiro, Seattle Mariners
OF) Jason Bay, Boston Red Sox
OF) Ryan Braun, Milwaukee Brewers

SP) Zach Grienke, Kansas City Royals
SP) Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants
SP) Felix Hernandez, Seattle Mariners

CL) Mariano Rivera, New York Yankees


I'll just state my changes

SS)Hanley Ramirez for Derek Jeter
2B) Chase Utley for Dustin Pedroia




Ramirez over Jeter

Ramirez had 197 hits,42 2Bs,1 3Bs,24 HRs, 106 RBI,27 SB,61 BBs, and 101 Ks

.342 AVG, .410 OBP,543 SLG,.954 OPS

Jeter had 212 Hits,27 2BS, 1 3Bs, 18 HRs, 66 RBI, 30 SB, 72 BBs, and 90 Ks

.334 AVG, .406 OBP, .465 SLG, .871 OPS

Ramirez has more 2B,HR,RBI,AVG,OBP,SLG,OPS



Utley over Pedroia

Utley had 161 hits, 28 2Bs,4 3Bs,31HRs, 93 RBI,23 SBs,88 BBs and 101 Ks

.282 BA .397 OBP .507 SLG .905 OPS

Pedroia had 185 hits, 48 2Bs, 4 3Bs, 15 HRs,72 RBI, 20 SB,74BBs and 45 ks

.296 BA, .371 OBP, .447 SLG, .819 OPS

Utley has more HR,SB,RBI,BB,OBP,SLG,OPS


Halladay over Hernandez

Hallady had 17-10,2.79 ERA,1.126 WHIP,9CG,4SHO, 8.8 H/9,1.3 BB/9, 5.94 K/BB


Hernandez had 19-5,2.49 ERA,1.135 WHIP, 2CG, 1SHO,7.5 H/9,2.7 BB/9,3.06 K/BB

Halladay has better WHIP,CG,SHO,BB/9,K/BB


Figured those would be who i was up against. Now that we have offensive stats lets talk defense shall we.

Jeter over Ramirez

Ramirez had 10 Errors, 77 Double Plays, .983 Fielding %, 4.07 Range Factor and a 6.147 Zone Rating. According to ESPN, Ramirez ranks 5th in the NL at his postion defensively.

Jeter had 8 Erros, 75 Double Plays, .986 Fielding %, 3.90 Range Factor and a 6.480 Zone Rating. According to ESPN, Jeter ranks 1st in the AL at his postion defensvely.

Jeter had less Errors, better Fielding %, and a better Zone Rating.

Pedroia over Utley

Utley had 12 Errors, 97 double plays, .984 Fielding %, 5.05 Range Factor, and a 4.959 Zone Rating. According to ESPN, Utley ranks 6th in the NL at his postion defensively.

Pedroia had 6 Errors, 93 Double Plays, .991 Fielding %, 4.39 Range Factor, and a 5.792 Zone Rating. According to ESPN, Pedroia ranks 3rd in the AL at his positon defensively.

Pedroia has 1/2 the errors Utley does, a better fielding %, and a higher Zone Rating.

The offensive stats are misleading due to each players spot in the lineup. But regardless of your spot in the lineup you have to play defense. My guys play better defense.

MTC on SP


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Forfeited Turn


Sure utley and ramirez are slightly less impressive defensively but you seem to ignore the huge difference in offense.

You also have failed to notice that jeter hit only 15 hrs on in the best HR park in the majors.

How about the clutch factor?

Utley over Pedroia

(post season stats (to be fair im only using WS stats for utley while using ALDS for pedroia))

Utley 6 hits,1 2B,5 HR, 8 RBI, 1 SB, 4 BB, 5 K, .286 AVG, .400 OBP, 1.048 SLG, 1.448 OPS

Pedroia 2 hits, 1 2B, 0 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 0 K, .167 AVG, .231 OBP, .250 SLG, .481 OPS

Ultey showed his true colors of being a team leader and clutch hitter this postseason while Pedroia buckled under the bright lights!

Utley wins hits,HR,RBI,SB,BB,AVG,OBP,SLG,OPS


You didn't argue the pitchers because its clear that Haladay was a better pick. So even if I was to concede that Jeter was better than Ramirez i would win.(not that that is going to happen)

Hanley hit in a less friendly ballpark yet still managed 6 more HR and 40 more RBI. Besides that he did it on a team that scored almost 200 less runs (722) to (912)

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November 9, 2009  12:53 AM ET
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Just missed.

November 9, 2009  12:58 AM ET
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current stats or career?

November 9, 2009  12:59 AM ET
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I would assume current if you're using Felix Hernandez?

November 9, 2009  02:02 AM ET
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yea its current.

November 9, 2009  03:01 AM ET
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* Somehow manage to delete Halladay over Hernandez at the top

November 9, 2009  04:09 AM ET
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QUOTE(#4):
Originally posted 02:02 AM ET  11.09 by TrailBlazerWA

yea its current.

Sorry it took so long

November 9, 2009  08:06 AM ET
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Dustin Pedroia is overrated

November 9, 2009  08:53 AM ET
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Originally posted 08:06 AM ET  11.09 by So. Cal. nuances

Dustin Pedroia is overrated

I agree. He's good, but he wasn't all that special this year.

November 9, 2009  02:41 PM ET
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Originally posted 08:53 AM ET  11.09 by Ivellious and Valai

I agree. He's good, but he wasn't all that special this year.

oh god, check out his defensive and offensive stats from this year and say that again. Pedroia is not only one of the best defensive 2B in the league but hes a great offensive player too.

oh man if hes overrated check out his defensive stats and

November 9, 2009  02:42 PM ET
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*messed up the quote thing lol omit the bottom part

November 9, 2009  02:45 PM ET
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QUOTE(#10):
Originally posted 02:42 PM ET  11.09 by TrailBlazerWA

*messed up the quote thing lol omit the bottom part

How old are you and what country are you from?

Creat? Come on.

It's not even a typo. You did it twice.

November 9, 2009  02:48 PM ET
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Easy vote right...

November 9, 2009  02:49 PM ET
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QUOTE(#11):
Originally posted 02:45 PM ET  11.09 by RlCKY

How old are you and what country are you from?Creat? Come on. It's not even a typo. You did it twice.

Have another rye and ginger......with the players light.

November 9, 2009  02:59 PM ET
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my bad on the mis spell..but how is it an easy vote right?

November 9, 2009  03:00 PM ET
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QUOTE(#14):
Originally posted 02:59 PM ET  11.09 by TrailBlazerWA

my bad on the mis spell..but how is it an easy vote right?

Hanley > Jeter
Utley > Pedroia

November 10, 2009  12:19 AM ET
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November 10, 2009  12:23 AM ET
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What is MTC on SP suppose to mean?

November 10, 2009  12:26 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:23 AM ET  11.10 by Super Analytical

What is MTC on SP suppose to mean?

mtc is more to come sp is ?

November 10, 2009  12:37 AM ET
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Starting Pitcher..this is dumb. Everybody on here just goes for offense and homers. Pedroia and Jeter bring way more to the table for a team than Hanley and Utley. Lets see here..Pedroia has an MVP..the others do not. Jeter is prolly the most clutch hitter in baseball HISTORY. Both won Gold GLoves before. None of those NL guys can say that. Ridiculous. Quit being retarded fannation..i would aprreciate it:)

 
November 10, 2009  04:45 PM ET
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Internet went out anways i can clos in the third your turn Trailblazer

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