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  • November 09, 2009 11:15 AM ET

People who say winning isn't everything in sports are usually on the losing side

bconngemini9 (3-44-0) vs Agrippa GODSON (113-62-21)
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Think about how the only time that people say "winning isn't everything" are people who don't win anything, they want to soften the blow of being inferior by using ties and praising loses. Its like how Americans dominate all sports from basketball to baseball to football and when Europeans want to compete they create ties and say that its not about winning. Its like how Michigan State loses to Ohio and says there's next year and winning isn't everything.


I agree


Good, then people who dont think that winning is everything should accept that winning is everything because think about how in every sport we win, while soccer people have to have ties just to not feel the crush of defeat.

But that makes sense once you consider how winners like Brian Urlacher push forward towards the endzone, while soccer players play for the tie.

Have you ever heard someone celebrate a loss or even worse a tie? That there proves winning is everything.


In the grand scheme of life, no winning is not "everything". Then again happiness can be ones own personal victory or triumph, if you will. If you are so consumed by the travails of "winning" to where you are miserable , does winning really make you victorious? Can one find victory in indecision?

If winning is everything and we as a society follow this philosophy so literally, where we feel it necessary to inject toxins and PED's, can we really call it "winning"? When your actions are so drastic and detrimental it could possibly deter a whole generation away from a sport thats as american as apple pie, is that winning?

Is risking your livelihood and reputation a plausible wager when looking to win?


In todays competitive sports the goal should always be "win", it's the reason we as a society creates competition. I do believe their are limits though.

I guess its all how you view winning and the philosophical quandary that is "winning at all cost" or "winning isn't everything".

What do you think?


That sounds me to like a bunch of european liberal thinking, like how ties are good.

Life is about winning, stastistical achievement proves winnerdom. If like was like soccer it would suck because it would end in a 0-0 tie and there would be no superiority. The point of living is to gratify the ego, to feel as if you've accomplished more than anyone else.

Hence winning is everything, style of winning doesnt matter as long as youve accomplished dominance.


Well existentialism and philosophical ideals weren't created in America by soccer hating ass-clowns. Everything american has some type of European influence on them. What exactly is "european liberal thinking"? You school of thoughts makes Americans look bad.

"Statistical achievement" is premature ejaculation if anything. I have no idea what "winnerdom" means.

I knew you were an idiot , therefore I have never read or participated in any of your TD's.

You have done nothing in this TD to prove you are worthy of time. Your outlook on life is as skewed as your perception of soccer.

Winning is based upon ones perception of winning. I can win this TD but based on your idiocy , is it really a win?

Have I lost, wasting time to respond to your malarky?

I think you indeed win by being a **** idiot, which is counterproductive on your part. Or is that just my perception? Can I be safe to say my assumption is shared by the majority of the Fannation users.

Perhaps if you would leave the site, maybe we could all feel this sense of "winnerdom" you speak of.

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November 9, 2009  11:17 AM ET
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based on your TD record bconn, I'm betting you're a fan of the "winning isn't everything" mantra, no matter what you may say here

November 9, 2009  11:18 AM ET
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Or have some humility.

One team has to lose. Every time.

Everyone will lose.

If you cannot take losing you shouldn't be a professional athlete.

November 9, 2009  11:19 AM ET
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QUOTE(#1):
Originally posted 11:17 AM ET  11.09 by rstowe

based on your TD record bconn, I'm betting you're a fan of the "winning isn't everything" mantra, no matter what you may say here

Irony.

November 9, 2009  11:19 AM ET
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stowe, are you able to get into groups? I cant get into walkers

November 9, 2009  11:20 AM ET
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I was thinking the same thing rstowe, good words.

November 9, 2009  11:26 AM ET
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Originally posted 11:19 AM ET  11.09 by Agrippa GODSON

stowe, are you able to get into groups? I cant get into walkers

yeah, I"m not having any issues

November 9, 2009  11:56 AM ET
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Ask the Eagles..they have the winning formula! If you want to know how to win ask the Eagles!

November 9, 2009  12:00 PM ET
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Winning isn't everything.... it's the only thing.

November 9, 2009  12:03 PM ET
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QUOTE(#8):
Originally posted 12:00 PM ET  11.09 by mikeycook

Winning isn't everything.... it's the only thing.

What a F8cking Loser.

November 9, 2009  12:06 PM ET
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QUOTE(#9):
Originally posted 12:03 PM ET  11.09 by BS patrol is Joint Ops

What a F8cking Loser.

From you, I consider that a compliment.

November 9, 2009  12:12 PM ET
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QUOTE(#7):
Originally posted 11:56 AM ET  11.09 by LOVERnottaFIGHTER

Ask the Eagles..they have the winning formula! If you want to know how to win ask the Eagles!

Eagles - 8 playoff wins to Cowboys' 0 playoff wins in the last decade. I would say that the Eagles do know a little bit about winning. I mean when it counts, anyway...

November 9, 2009  12:30 PM ET
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Originally posted 12:06 PM ET  11.09 by mikeycook

From you, I consider that a compliment.

And from you, I know the profile of a person who would die in a fire.

November 9, 2009  12:30 PM ET
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QUOTE(#7):
Originally posted 11:56 AM ET  11.09 by LOVERnottaFIGHTER

Ask the Eagles..they have the winning formula! If you want to know how to win ask the Eagles!

December and January are coming.

Shouldn't you start piping down?

November 9, 2009  12:34 PM ET
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Originally posted 12:30 PM ET  11.09 by BS patrol is Joint Ops

And from you, I know the profile of a person who would die in a fire.

Really, BS, could you be any lower of a person? Do you add any value to this site? Didn't Mom and Dad pay enough attention to you? Why don't you go in the other room and ask them why?

November 9, 2009  12:57 PM ET
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Ughhh. People who believe winning IS everything usually have nothing else to be happy about.

November 9, 2009  01:19 PM ET
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Urlacher would think bconn is a loser.

Yep - You, above all people on FN, should know that "Winning Isn't Everything" -- Right bconn?
I mean, SURELY you already know how to "celebrate a loss" as you put it.
I wonder what a winner the likes of Brian Urlacher, would think of a loser who keeps pushing the same message over and over and over and keeps LOSING over and over and over with that ... Same-Old ~ Same-Old

November 9, 2009  01:35 PM ET
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why accept a td that you agree with?

November 9, 2009  02:31 PM ET
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Originally posted 01:35 PM ET  11.09 by sanchezstoner: Go GRIZ!!

why accept a td that you agree with?

Do we always have to agree? Can we have a philosophical debate in regards to both sides of the debate? My first argument was in jest anyways.

November 9, 2009  04:38 PM ET
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USA doesnt dominate basketball and baseball

 
November 9, 2009  05:11 PM ET
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Winning is everything if you cover the spread.

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