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Who drafted the swiss-cheese OL?

Blame Ted Thompson. Didn't keep Farve retired, didn't draft anyone good, assembled the team. He is currently the mascot of failure up in Green Bay.

Brett Favre, he put a hex on the Packers. Brett is like god, except he is a vengeful god. Unlike the real god, Peyton Manning.

What about Rodgers shotty/horrible/pathetic 2TD to 3INT record this past game? That didnt hurt there loss? HA! Rodgers choked on this game.

They need to get rid of that OL! He has allowed most of the sacks to come in. And I am not sure about the new 4-3 defensive scheme they have now. Just plan dead awful. And that Ted Thomson, I can't stand that guy.

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Originally posted 01:32 PM ET  11.09 by Save_Me_Jebus: 10-0.

Brett Favre, he put a hex on the Packers. Brett is like god, except he is a vengeful god. Unlike the real god, Peyton Manning.

Pathetic.

didn't rogers also have 3 picks and only 1 td?

is it just me, or is that not a problem with the team?

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Originally posted 01:46 PM ET  11.09 by RlCKY

Pathetic.

easy there. No need to throw out compliments

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Originally posted 01:48 PM ET  11.09 by sanchezstoner

didn't rogers also have 3 picks and only 1 td? is it just me, or is that not a problem with the team?

Rodgers play this season has been pretty spectacular if you consider how much he has been rushed and sacked. He does hold onto the ball too long at times but he isn't what is wrong with the team.

The defense was awful yesterday and the team appeared to enter the game too cocky. Plenty of blame to go around but I am starting to wonder what McCarthy is thinking at times.

As a Packer fan, I blame Rodgers for not getting the ball out of this hands fast enough.

The OLine is doing a hellova job pass blocking, but they can't hold blocks forever...

RE: "If you are getting paid millions of dollars, I certainly hope you are giving full effort."

Money = Effort? Fail.

Summer 2007 Larry Johnson became the highest paid running back in the league after posting 1750 yds, 20 TD in 2005 and 1789 yds, 17 TD in 2006. In the years after his contract, he posted 559 yds, 3 TD in 2007, 874 yds, 5 TD in 2008 and 358 yds, 0 TD before getting cut yesterday.

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RE: "Is McCarthy supposed to abandon the run on 1st and 2nd down? Against one of the best pass rushing teams in the NFL? I guess you should just have Rogers drop back every down."

No, what made McCarthy's offense successful in 2007 was that he passed to set up the run. He's abandoned that formula and it's costing his team wins.

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RE: "What we have is a classic case of a fan trying to be the coach."

No, what we have is a classic case of the coach not making common sense in-game adjustments. If Percy Harvin is blowing your team up on returns, stop kicking to him.

If the Williams Wall is stuffing your run, hit the edges or dump it behind them. Tire them out so you can run at 'em in the 4th quarter when you have the lead.

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RE: "I think Rodgers is still having trouble reading defenses fast enough and is behind an underproducing offensive line".

Rodgers is reading defenses fine. The problem is that the plays called are not giving Rodgers open checkdown options when his line collapses on him. McCarthy know his o-line is his weakness, yet he's not giving Rodgers outlets.

When the same thing happened to Favre, Favre would try to gun a pass to a covered receiver, which is why Favre is the Interception King. Rodgers holds the ball because he understands that an interception is worse than a sack. Yes, Rodgers had 3 of his 5 INTs against Tampa, but all three were on deep balls and only the deep post thrown to Jennings into triple coverage was a bad decision.

The Packers could still be a successful team this year if McCarthy pulls his head out of his rectum and gameplans to his team's strengths and weaknesses.

For one, you can't argue TD's in the comment section, however I'll respond to your arguments.

Larry Johnson? Once again you are using extreme cases to try and justify your argument. You can't try to generalize the entire NFL with the example of one player.

The classic "fan being a coach" assestment is only understated by your last comment.

While you see Rodgers holding the ball as trying to avoid a INT, I see indecision on his part. The guy has great talent at his skill positions, I can't imagine none of them are getting open on most plays.

I can't argue TD's in the comment section? Hmm... Type... Click "Submit"... Woah, I did it!

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Successful debates include facts and examples. Larry Johnson is one recent example of my point, not a generalization of the entire NFL. Once again you are putting words in my mouth.

I'm sure a few of his sacks were from indecision, but he shouldn't be put in situations that allow indecision. If his first reads aren't there, an automatic checkdown receiver should be available on every passing play. Favre had checkdown receivers available all game long in both Packers-Vikings games while Rodgers had them in neither. Even when Rodgers escapes the pocket pressure and rolls out the receivers are too deep to safely get the ball to them. That problem falls on the person who designs and calls the plays... Mike McCarthy.

This Packers team is like the newest Indiana Jones movie... it should've been a great success, but Spielberg and Lucas totally F-ed it up. We don't blame Harrison Ford, we kinda feel bad for him.

Well you cited Larry Johnson, and then applied his situation to the entire Packers O-line. Yep, that's the definition of generalization.

Nice TDing with you.

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Originally posted 04:04 PM ET  11.10 by BurghHockey12: CHAMPIONS!!!

Well you cited Larry Johnson, and then applied his situation to the entire Packers O-line. Yep, that's the definition of generalization.Nice TDing with you.

Agreed. Nice, TD.

And thanks for keep the debate reasonably intelligent and respectful.