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  • November 09, 2009 07:24 PM ET

Jr will never be great as his following deserves

kodiak (3-7-1) vs Floatman-U Turkey! (10-2-1)
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Jr thou he has never been a suck like Kyle Busch and throw tempertampions is still not as good as driver as you would think he would be with the amount of fans has.
Jr Nation follows blindly weather or not Jr does well because of his Daddy's name.
If not for his father he would be a tick better than Micheal Waltrip who follows on his brothers coat tails.


1st off, I think it is great that us in the Nascar Threads are stepping out and venturing into the world of Throw Downs.
That just shows you how boring it has become with the sport and stories we have had to comment on.

2nd. I like to bash Kyle Busch as much as the next guy, maybe a little more, but lets save that for another time.

3rd. KYLE SUCKS.

Ok, with that out of the way:

I think I would use Fans' Expectations, and not their Deserving rights.
Sponsors DESERVE because they pay tons of money for many things like wins, personalities, exposure, etc.
Fans EXPECT results, and like their drivers for their personalities, and the drivers name, or name sake. I'll admit that JR's performance has been (using another words) "Less then Stellar" and almost pathetic for the past few years. Who hasn't had off years?

I am not one to remember stats, but their are many other drivers out there doing much worse.

"tick better than Micheal Waltrip"?, are you serious? I won't even go there.

His Dads name, Yes, JR has had many breaks by being Dale Earnhardt son, but that didn't get him 2 Nationwide Championships.

Ran out of room, More to come.......


Alright my comment about Jr being a tick better than Micky or Mikey might have been a tad to the low side .... alright I was digging under you but Jr has never been in contention for a Championship.
Other than a great filler in the field ......


6 out of 9 full ride years Jr. has finished top 12 the standings.
3 of those years in the top 5.

Math time.

9 years top 12 in the standings leaves 31 drivers as field fillers.
2 years 5th in standings leaves 38 drivers as field fillers.
1 year 3rd in standings leaves 40 field fillers.

past 2 years.
2008 12th in standings =31 field fillers
2009 23rd, with 20 behind him.
JR. A field filler?, I think Not!

Yea, the 88 team sucked this year, no one wants to see the above stats.

Is he or will he ever be as good as his Dad?, No, probably not.
Do his fans expect more? Yes, and I am one of them, but those fans that won't take into consideration that drivers, all drivers have bad seasons, need to sell, trash, give, burn, etc. their drivers gear, and find a new one.


Hit me with your best shot!


Jr Nation easly ranks up there with Jimmie Johnson's , Jeff Gordon's fans and they have between them 7 and soon to be 8 Championships.
Even Mark Martin at least came in second what twice plus a ton more wins and Jr Nation still probley out numbers those 3 drivers fans.
His fan base does not justafy how good a driver Jr is.
Short of being a rock star that everyone knows his name including anyone outside of NASCAR his success does not equal fan base.
Then again I never understood why in the world Mikey had such a huge following considering he has had even less success than Jr.
I guess some fans will follow blindly.


kodiak, Is that your final answer? LOL

You said " Short of being a rock star that everyone knows his name including anyone outside of Nascar his success does not equal his fan base"


So what you are saying is that just because you don't want to be a JR. Nation Fan, others who are shouldn't be a fan either?
Like I said, His driving ability (in current years) must not be the only reason he is so popular, his merchandise is #1 in current sales.


"Jr will never be great as his following deserves"

Maybe not in some eyes, but remember this, It ant over until the fat lady sings, and JR ant done yet! "It Is What It Is"

Thanks kodiak! Good Luck.............NOT!

November 9, 2009  07:33 PM ET

I'll take this, but let me eat my dinner 1st, and have a Cold AMP.
I shall return!

November 9, 2009  07:38 PM ET

Who needs to eat??? roflol
I better start sharpening up my steak knife

November 9, 2009  07:39 PM ET

I prefer a Bud to a AMP.
Who needs to stay up all night?

November 9, 2009  07:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I prefer a Bud to a AMP.Who needs to stay up all night?

Good Luck kodiak, hope yours is better then your Ducks! LOL

November 9, 2009  08:00 PM ET

Same to you and some day my Ducks will get ya lol

November 9, 2009  08:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Same to you and some day my Ducks will get ya lol

You are a QUACK!

November 9, 2009  08:03 PM ET

No vote. You're both making the rest of us on the NASCAR boards look bad.

"I'm not one to remember stats." Then LOOK THEM UP.

November 9, 2009  08:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

No vote. You're both making the rest of us on the NASCAR boards look bad."I'm not one to remember stats." Then LOOK THEM UP.

I'll add your comment to the opinions section.

November 9, 2009  08:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

No vote. You're both making the rest of us on the NASCAR boards look bad."I'm not one to remember stats." Then LOOK THEM UP.

Does this mean the rest of you on the boards are just sitting around doing nothing or you saying we suck?
Sorry if I find your comment clear as mud

November 9, 2009  08:30 PM ET

You boys want to check my credentials?

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/19676-nascar-was-too-lite-on-hend rick-motorsports
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/202459-nascar-i-like-fox-better-t han-those-espn-people?category_id=17
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/262441-nascar-should-fight-uncle- sam-to-let-tobacco-companies-back-in-for-sponsors?category_id=10
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/281657-hendrick-motorsports-will- dominate-nascar-in-2009?category_id=17
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/290677-best-plate-track-racer-eve r?category_id=10
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/302001-what-two-drivers-would-you -pick-to-head-up-the-new-usf1-team?category_id=17
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/362920-5-people-will-be-inducted- in-the-inaugural-class-of-nascars-hall-of-fame-those-5-people-should-be?cat egory_id=10
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/369323-nascar-shuffle-take-ii?cat egory_id=17
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/389060-jimmie-johnson-will-not-wi n-the-next-championship?category_id=10

November 9, 2009  08:32 PM ET

kodiak, I think he is trying to say what a outstanding job we are doing and he won't come and play anymore! LOL

November 9, 2009  08:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

You boys want to check my credentials?http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/19676-nascar-was-too- lite-on-hend rick-motorsportshttp://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/202459-nascar-i-l ike-fox-better-t han-those-espn-people?category_id=17http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/sh ow/262441-nascar-should-fight-uncle- sam-to-let-tobacco-companies-back-in-for-sponsors?category_id=10http://www .fannation.com/throwdowns/show/281657-hendrick-motorsports-will- dominate-nascar-in-2009?category_id=17http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/ show/290677-best-plate-track-racer-eve r?category_id=10http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/302001-what-two-d rivers-would-you -pick-to-head-up-the-new-usf1-team?category_id=17http://www.fannation.com/ throwdowns/show/362920-5-people-will-be-inducted- in-the-inaugural-class-of-nascars-hall-of-fame-those-5-people-should-be?ca t egory_id=10http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/369323-nascar-shuffle- take-ii?cat egory_id=17http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/389060-jimmie-johnson- will-not-wi n-the-next-championship?category_id=10

Are you the Throw Down Bully?
Come on in and take a seat, we be just fine!

November 9, 2009  08:35 PM ET

noydbyj, dude If you will notice, I have done 2 TDs and this is kodiaks 1st. So I'm sorry we have not met your expectations, give me at least 2 or 3 more to catch up to speed.

November 9, 2009  08:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Are you the Throw Down Bully?Come on in and take a seat, we be just fine!

Just trying to show you that I'm not sitting on the sidelines complaining. Feel free to challenge me to any legit and debatable racing topic. If I disagree with you, I'll be happy to take you on.

November 9, 2009  08:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Just trying to show you that I'm not sitting on the sidelines complaining. Feel free to challenge me to any legit and debatable racing topic. If I disagree with you, I'll be happy to take you on.

OK, feel free to drop by any time.
P.S. I'll work on my Stats!
Later

November 9, 2009  08:46 PM ET

Plain and simple the Chase sucks and we are trying keep ourselves amussed and have some fun while we are at it.
I am more than willing to take any tips you are willing to hand out noydbyj

November 9, 2009  08:53 PM ET

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/132176

He's much smarter than me.

November 9, 2009  09:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/132176He's much smarter than me.

Now see, that's the info I could have used in your first comment, not that we suck at this! LOL Thanks

November 9, 2009  09:01 PM ET

Ah come on ..
that is all the talking we get to do?
I would have fought harder in what I thought was the opening rounds ....
Good Luck Float.
Was fun either way

 
November 9, 2009  09:05 PM ET

cool blog by the way noydbyj.
I did read it and hope to have learned from it will make you proud of me someday in future TDS

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