All Time Cleveland Indians Team
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 07/29, 08:46 PM
C-Sandy Alomar Jr
1B-Jim Thome
2B-Nap Lajoie
SS-Lou Boudreau
3B-Al Rosen
LF-Shoeless Joe Jackson
CF-Tris Speaker
RF-Elmer Flick
SP-Cy Young
SP-Bob Feller
SP-Bob Lemon
RP-Doug Jones
MG-Mike Hargrove
The players you choose must have played the most seasons with Cleveland, than any other team.
CodyShep233 said 07/29, 09:04 PM
C- Steve O'Neill
1B- Hal Trosky
2B- Nap Lajoie
3B- Al Rosen
SS- Joe Sewell
OF- Albert Belle
OF- Tris Speaker
OF- Joe Jackson
SP- Cy Young
SP- Bob Feller
SP- Stan Coveleski
RP- Doug Jones
MG- Mike Hargrove
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 07/29, 09:35 PM
C:::Not sure where you got Steve O'Neill from, Alomar had a better AVG, OPS, more HR, 2B, and TB, and a better fielding %, and more All-Star appearances, in fewer ABs.
1B:::Jim Thome was a better power hitter (double the # of HR), a better SLG, a worse BA but a better OBP, more H and RBI (although he did play a bit more), not to mention a better fielding percentage, and 5 All-Star appearances. Thome is also close to becoming a 500-HR hitter.
OF:::Jackson was still mainly a LF during his career, so we can't exactly compare our two players, I would've taken Belle had I placed Jackson in right field. But yeah, no comparing there.
Stan Coveleski over Bob Lemon? Bob Lemon played one less season, but had a better record (207-128) than Coveleski (215-142). Coveleski had a better career ERA, but he also played in a different era (early 1900s), when ERA's were lower on average than today. Lemon also had more strikeouts in fewer innings, and pitched in an era where hitting was much easier (more big hitters as well).
CodyShep233 said 07/30, 08:16 AM
I wouldn've took Alomar despite the fact that he was far too injury-prone. In 11 seasons with Cleveland, he caught 100+ games in only 4 of those seasons. 350+ AB's in only 5 of those seasons. One 20+ home-run season. O'Neill - .263 AVG, .349 OBP. Alomar Jr. - .274 AVG, .310 OBP.. career numbers. He caught for them for 13 years and managed for 14, also.
Hal Trosky- Four seasons with a batting average of .330 or better. He is a FOUR time MVP. Six 20+ home-run seasons including 42 in '36 when he won an MVP. In '34 when he won one of his MVP's, he was only 21 years old. He was the best AL 1B behind Gehrig, Greenburg, Foxx in his playing time.
Most of the time, for All-Time teams, it doesn't matter where you put your outfielder's. I'm sorry if you wanted them in accurate positions.
Stan Coveleski is a member of the HOF.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 07/30, 11:16 AM
Trosky was a four time MVP CANDIDATE, not winner. Thome was an 8 time candidate.
Thome had a worse career BA by .019, but a better OBP and SLG (so a better OPS).
Thome is also a better fielder, a better HR hitter, and he has 5 All Star appearances, as opposed to Trosky's none.
Stan Coveleski is in the HOF, SAME AS BOB LEMON, the guy I chose.
It took Coveleski 41 years after his final game to be inducted.
It took Bob Lemon 18 years after his final game to be inducted.
CodyShep233 said 07/30, 11:38 AM
I also chose Stan so my starters wouldn't be exactly the same as your's. I chose to have some diversity, and you can argue they are both just as worthy for the spot. One didn't have a much better career than the other.
Thome hit 334 home-runs in a Cleveland uniform. His third-biggest home-run season happened in Philadelphia, and he also hit 42 in a Philly uniform. Not to mention another 42 home-run season with the White Sox last year. Thome has three seasons with a .300+ batting average.. Trosky had four. Thome has also struck-out tons and tons more times than Trosky ever did.
Thome: 1377 strike-outs - 12 seasons
Trosky: 373 strike-outs - 9 seasons
Those are just in Cleveland uniforms. Trosky only played his last two years in a White Sox uniform and had little strike-outs both those years. Thome has 600+ more than his number with Cleveland in his career.
I stated that he was in the running four times in my comment below. I knew something was wrong when I said he won it four times. Bonds is the only winner to win the award more than three times.
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Comments (8)
lol i was going 2 say vizquel but i looked up the stats of your SS. i have done a couple stuff like this. i did the phils and giants. except for the giants i did after 1950 so no1 could pull a guy i never heard of from the 1920s. pretty good list so far. i got to see the other guy's list 1st tho
J-rod5 | 07/29/07, 08:58 PM
Report Offensive CommentC- Steve O'Neill
1B- Hal Trosky
2B- Nap Lajoie
3B- Al Rosen
SS- Joe Sewell
OF- Albert Belle
OF- Tris Speaker
OF- Joe Jackson
SP- Cy Young
SP- Bob Feller
SP- Stan Coveleski
RP- Doug Jones
MG- Mike Hargrove
CodyShep233 | 07/29/07, 09:03 PM
Report Offensive CommentOops.. sorry. Not the first time I've done that.
CodyShep233 | 07/29/07, 09:04 PM
Report Offensive CommentI gotta think Manny Ramirez makes the all-time Indians team.
hyperRevue | 07/29/07, 09:43 PM
Report Offensive CommentI'm sorry.. Trosky wasn't a four-time MVP. He finished in the voting four times. Very sorry.
CodyShep233 | 07/30/07, 09:24 AM
Report Offensive CommentI thought something was inaccurate when I said that.
CodyShep233 | 07/30/07, 09:24 AM
Report Offensive CommentMy eyes almost popped out of their sockets when I read that....a four time MVP I've never heard of.
Basketball Jesus: CHAMPION! | 07/30/07, 12:14 PM
Report Offensive CommentMy eyes almost popped out of their sockets when I read that....a four time MVP I've never heard of.
Basketball Jesus: CHAMPION! | 07/30/07, 12:14 PM
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