- 08/08/2007, 08:56PM ET
THE FANNATION FRATERNITY CHAMPIONSHIP THROWDOWN: 2007 AL All-Under-25 Team vs. NL All-Under-25 team.
LanaLikesBrady said 08/08, 08:56 PM
This is an excellent topic, and a difficult choice, being there multiple stars in both leagues, but I am going to have to go with the American League 25 and Under all-star team.They have by far the best Outfieldiers, and they are still really young.Their Infield is stacked with the likes of Cano, Mauer and Peralta.
Their Pitching? Well, that just speaks for itself.
1. Melky Cabrera, Born: 08/11/1984 Age :22
2. Delmon Young, Born: 09/14/1985 Age :21
3. Nick Markakis, Born: 11/17/1983 Age :23
1st: Casey Kotchman, Born: 02/22/1983 Age :24
2nd: Robinson Cano, Born: 10/22/1982 Age :24
3rd: Alex Gordon, Born: 02/10/1984 Age :23
SS: Jhonny Peralta, Born: 5/28/1982 Age :25
C: Joe Mauer, Born : 4/19/1983 Age :24
1. Francisco Liriano, LEFTY, Born: 10/26/1983 Age :23
2. Justin Verlander, Righty, Born : 02/20/1983 Age :24
3. Jared Weaver, Righty, Born: 10/4/1982 Age :24
4. Fausto Carmona, Righty, Born: 12/07/1983 Age :24
5. Felix Hernandez, Righty, Born: 04/08/1986 Age :21
1. Joakim Soria, Righty, Born: 05/18/1984
kentuckyfan1 said 08/08, 09:28 PM
And I, of course, will go with the National League. They have a great defense and very powerful hitters. They're Under-25 team should be better.
1. Jeff Francoeur
2. Jeremy Hermida
3. Chris Young
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Rickie Weeks
3B: Miguel Cabrera
SS: Hanley Ramirez
C: Russell Martin
1. Cole Hamels ERA- 3.57 W/L- 12-5
2. Tim Lincecum ERA- 3.59 W/L- 6-2
3. Chad Billingsley ERA- 3.34 W/L- 7-2
4. Matt Cain ERA- 3.93 ERA
5. Tom Gorzelnanny ERA- 3.50 W/L- 10-6
Closer: Chad Cordero ERA- 2.57 SV- 24
LanaLikesBrady said 08/08, 11:21 PM
First off, CHRIS YOUNG IS 28 YEARS OLD!!!!! HE WAS BORN 5/25/1979.
That Null and voids your whole outfield.
Infield, I can give you first, and third, Peralta is a better fielder then Ramirez, and a great hitter as well. Everyone of the guys you picked has a lower Fielding PCT and more errors then the guys I picked, giving my lineup more chances to build leads.
AL pitchers have a 3.17 ERA,
NL pitchers have a 3.42 ERA
NL has 546 Strikeouts, 231 BB
AL has 546 Strikeouts, 195 BB
AL has 38 wins. With one guy injured, so 4 guys, 38 wins.
NL has 39 wins, with 5 starters.
kentuckyfan1 said 08/09, 07:13 AM
Are you insane? The Chris Young that you speak of is a PITCHER. This Chris Young plays for Arizona, and he's 23. Why would I have a pitcher in the outfield? I thought about specifying, but then I thought that everyone would know that I wouldn't have a pitcher in the outfield, as well.
Now, let me show you why the NL is better.
Casey Kotchman- .304 9 HR 59 52 RBIs
Prince Fielder- .287 34 HR 86 RBIs
Adv. Prince Fielder (NL)
Robinson Cano- .309 13 HR 68 RBIs
Rickie Weeks- .212 5 HR 19 RBIs
Adv. Robinson Cano (AL)
Alex Gordon- .238 8 HR 37 RBIs
Miguel Cabrera- .336 28 HR 81 RBIs
Adv. Cabrera (NL)
Jhonny Peralta- .280 16 HR 56 RBIs
Hanley Ramirez- .342 20 HR 55 RBIs
Adv. Ramirez (NL)
Joe Mauer- .301 5 HR 49 RBIs
Russell Martin- .295 12 HR 68 RBIs
Adv. Martin (NL)
Melky Cabrera, Delmon Young, Nick Markakis- 27 HR 178 RBIs COMBINED
Jeff Francoeur, Jeremy Hermida, Chris Young- 42 HR 150 RBIs COMBINED
adv. tie...there's no way to calculate this with there being such a wide spread of HRs and RBIs on both.
As you can see, people are voting for you apparently because of the false accusation you made, because, as I just proved, my team is better.
LanaLikesBrady said 08/09, 10:18 AM
I apologize about the Young statement, you are correct.
Every single one of my outfielders has a better fielding PCT, and 28 more RBI's, HR mean nothing if they are always solos.
Fielder is a huge hitter, but a liablity on first base. has 11 errors and a measly .988 Fpct.
Cabrera is a winner no matter which way you look at it.
Martin has 10 errors, to Mauer's 0. That's Right, Mauer is a WAY BETTER CATCHER.
To be a Catcher, hitting is a bonus, You must be able to control the ball first and foremost, and Mauer is better at that.
4 of my pitchers have won the same amount as 5 of yours.
4 of my pitchers have the same amount of strikeouts as 5 of yours.
4 of my pitchers HAVE A WAY BETTER ERA then 5 of yours.
My fifth pitcher was one of the best in the AL before his injury, and is recuperating nicely.
kentuckyfan1 said 08/09, 03:55 PM
I???m going to go ahead and try to pull a big comeback, although I think this one is a lost cause.
You???re argument is based solely on pitching. Sure, the AL has better young pitchers than the NL. I can admit that. However, the rest of the team from the National League, in my opinion, blows the AL out of the water.
Look at these guys! How can you honestly tell me that a lineup including Prince Fielder, Hanley Ramirez, and Miguel Cabrera not beat a lineup filled with average talent at most positions? If the game was all about pitching, then the AL would have won every game this year in the interleague play. But they didn???t. And do you know why? Because the NL has better players in the infield and outfield.
Take the Brewers for example. What is their average age? I know that it???s somewhere in the 20???s. And yet they were able to cause a lot of commotion this season with a very strong showing.
You???re right, HRs don???t always mean a lot as far as wins are concerned, but in the cause of players 25 and under, they do show one thing: potential. The National League has all of the potential that they could ever ask for.
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