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Pitching Records that won't be broken. Disagree? Then lets Throw it down.

Mr. Know It All said 08/12, 04:03 PM
Consecutive complete games (since 1900)
39 - Jack Taylor, St. Louis Cardinals - April 15 through October 6, 1904

Consecutive shutouts
6 - Don Drysdale, Los Angeles Dodgers - May 14 through June 4, 1968

Consecutive no-hit games
2 - Johnny Vander Meer, Cincinnati Reds - June 11 and 15, 1938

Consecutive seasons, 40 or more wins
3 - Tommy Bond, Boston Redcaps - 1877 through 1879

Consecutive seasons, 30 or more wins
6 - Tim Keefe, New York Metropolitans (American Association) and New York Giants 1883 through 1888

Jazinho said 08/12, 04:16 PM
I agree with all of them except the 6 consecutive shutouts. I think that someday that could be broken. Maybe the guy that will do it hasn't been born yet.

Orel Hershiser had 5 in 1988. Maddux had 39 innings at one time. The record has been approached and nearly equaled. I reckon that some day it will fall.

Mr. Know It All said 08/12, 04:44 PM
I dont think that we will ever see the 6 consecutive shutouts. 1988 was almost 20 years ago. A lot of things have changed. Here are some of them.

1. Scouting- with all the scouting materials out there today (video, pitch counts, pitch tendencies) I dont think a pitcher could ever go 6 complete game without giving up a run. Batters would eventually figure you out because like I said there is film to watch, and every pitcher has there own tendencies when it comes to what pitches they throw.

2. Pitching today- Coaches nowadays are notorious for pulling starting pitchers out of games early. I dont know a manager in baseball that would possibly pitch someone for 6 straight complete games. Then again I dont know of a pitcher who could even go 2 straight complete games. That is why their might never be another 300 game winner.

More to come next argument

Jazinho said 08/12, 04:50 PM
1. Scouting existed in 1988. Game film existed in 1988. Existed in 1968 in fact. Pitchers have ALWAYS studied their opponents. So have their catchers, for a hundred years. That is not a new phenomenon.

2. When do you see pitchers pulled when they are pitching a shutout? What manager would break up a scoreless streak?

Mr. Know It All said 08/12, 04:54 PM
1. Dont tell me you think that 1988's scouting is a prevalent at 2007's.

2. So if your team is up 1-0 in the bottom of 9 with a two runners on base your going to keep your pitcher in who has thrown 130+ pitches. if you do then you probably won't be a manager for very long. This happens all the time. If you are up by 3 or less in the bottom of 9 you bring in the closer. The closer is one of them most important players in the game.

Were talking about a shutout, not a no-hitter

Jazinho said 08/12, 04:58 PM
"Prevalent" is an adjective so nothing can in fact be "a prevalent".

In 1988 baseball was 120 years old and yes scouting existed and was effective.

No perhaps not, but if my pitcher has thrown 115 pitches, is cruising and the score is 4-0 I very well may keep him in the game.

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