- 07/08/2010, 10:44PM ET
(Un) said 07/08, 10:44 PM
It is a sad, sad day in the world of Brett Favre. Someone else is getting all the attention and his name is LeBron James.
Despite the days of hype, despite the rumors, despite the 60-minute LeBron-a-thon... I'd have to say Brett Favre playing for Minnesota is worse than LeBron's exit from Cleveland.
Brett Favre has been talking retirement since 2006. He held Green Bay in limbo for two full seasons and God knows it felt longer.
March 2008 - Favre announces retirement
July 2008 - Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings
August 2008 - Favre is reinstated
What brought Favre back to play the game? His desire to play for arch-nemesis Minnesota. Green Bay was well aware of Favre's interest in the Vikings - so aware that when they traded Favre to the New York Jets, they included a penalty clause prohibiting NYJ from later trading Favre to the Vikings.
Favre plays out a single season in New York and forces the Jets to release him. Then he signs with the Vikings.
Favre's relentless desire to play for Green Bay's division rival is the ultimate betrayal.
Good luck, Pimp!
7#bag _ Com said 07/09, 09:14 AM
You miss one important factor.
Brett Favre won.
No Matter what people in Packerland feel about Brett- they still have that mini Lombardi trophy made of Cheddah in the fridge, they still have the memories of that Era
12 playoff runs
7 Division Titles
2 NFC titles
1 Super bowl
-- Thats a pretty good legacy. Yes Brett ripped peoples hearts out- and did it badly, but exactly how many years did you expect Brett has left? Bring me to point 2.
2) The PACKERS brought a LOT of this on themselves.
The brought in Rogers in 2005- you said yourself that Brett started his retirement talk in 2006.
The Packers should have just let him go- like the Niners did with some QB named MONTANA back in the 1993.
You have a QB, you have a younger QB you want to start, why try and demonize the old guy- who by the way is still leading the team to playoffs? The niners made the call to go with some Tampa castoff- and let joe go. If Brett had gone straight to Minny, 4-5 years and done.
3) LeBron is all of TWENTY-FIVE he has a DECADE of his PRIME to play. For the next 10-12 YEARS Cleveland gets to see him drop 25-30 a night.
(Un) said 07/09, 06:16 PM
The fact that Brett Favre won a championship for Green Bay does not make him any less of a traitor. If anything it only further proves his value to the franchise... making the loss even more significant.
For 16 years Favre was the face of Green Bay. Packer fans worshipped him. There was a little boy who wore a Brett Favre jersey for 1,561 consecutive days.
Yes, the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers... with the 24th pick of the 2005 Draft. A value pick. It's not like Green Bay traded up to get him. His draft day fall is near legendary by NFL Draft standards. He was expected to go much higher - a potential Top Ten pick.
And the Packers never forced Favre out of his starting position. Favre officially retired, then the Packers began practicing with Aaron Rodgers as the starter. When Favre unretired he was told he would have to win his job back if he wanted it. He did that to himself. You can't blame the Packers.
Favre faked retirements, exaggerated injuries (in New York), all to play for a divisional rival.
Both players abandoned their longtime fan base but only Brett Favre joined a divisional rival. LeBron did not.
7#bag _ Com said 07/10, 11:09 AM
Ok, You've confused me, was Rogers supposed to stink or something?
in the NFL- First round picks are starters. Bottom line- unless you are the Raiders or Ted Ginn Jr. Every first round pick is expected to start sooner rather than later.
Just like when the Broncos picked Maddox, the Packers could have spent that pick on some help- or traded it like the Cowboys did Brady
Take a look at this.
Brett is from Mississippi
Brett was a second round pick
Brett played in Atlanta as a Rookie
Brett goes HOME to Mississippi as SOON as the season is over (if he's playing Atl/GB/NJ/Minn wherever)
Contrast that to:
LeBron was BORN in Ohio
LeBron has never lived anywhere BUT Ohio
Ohio's "Mr. Basketball"
LeBron won State highschool titles in OHIO
The Cavs tanked to 17 wins to get Lebron
LeBron was the first overall pick
LeBron built a house IN OHIO
-- Think we can safely say LeBron has LONGER roots to Ohio than Brett has to any place he has ever played?
(Un) said 07/10, 11:48 AM
"Ok, You've confused me, was Rogers supposed to stink or something?"
Favre only lost his job because he retired. He was still expected to be the starter going into 2008 [b]if[/i] he remained on the active roster. The Packers were happy to leave Rodgers on the bench indefinitely. After - and only after - Favre retired, they handed the job to Aaron Rodgers.
LeBron may have been born in Ohio. But NBA to Cleveland never has been and never will be what NFL is to Green Bay. It's not just the fact that tickets to every Packers game have been sold out since 1960. The Packers franchise is literally owned by the fans... 111,000+ shareholders.
Packer fans treated Favre like a god. And after he toyed with their hearts for two full years of "I'm retired, oh wait I'm not retired", he wanted nothing more than to play for a rival franchise... so he could come back and crush the fans even more.
In comparison, the Lebron exit to Miami only took one week of Free Agency (which opened July 1st). He would have left earlier in the salary cap was posted prior to July 8th.
The LeBron exit only seems worse because it just happened Thursday.
7#bag _ Com said 07/10, 03:44 PM
LeBron may have been born in Ohio. But NBA to Cleveland never has been and never will be what NFL is to Green Bay
-- you miss the point. Cleveland basketball has been hammered by people like Jordan for decades- even when they had great players like Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Larry Nance and the immortal Craig Ehlo - they still bore "witness" to how one player can put a team on his back and crush anyone
Lebron's cast wasn't that much worse than Jordan's was for a while- True he never had a Pippen Level- but he wasn't starting Scott Williams and Dennis Hopson either.
The Fans in Cleveland had a home grown hero, and there was NO reason that he could not slap the NBA around just like Jordan right? Especially after he started putting up numbers that Jordan never even touched as a rookie and blew Kobe out of the water.
Imagine if Marino had gone to Pittsburgh and was throwing bombs all over 3 rivers.
it means more when its a guy they have seen over TV since he was in TENTH GRADE! And due to the biggest "lotto luck" since Ewing - Mr Ohio was CLEVELAND!!
Finally Brett was chased down by ESPN,
LeBron would have put it on PPV if he could.
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