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  • 07/12/2010, 02:26PM ET

Hardest Running Backfield in NFL Next Year

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Let me make this clear. This isn't going to be the best backfield, just the hardest running one.

I'll gladly take the AP/Toby Gerhart combo

First, the newcomer....





And that other guy






AP is on the decline, therefore he wont be as hard hitting.

Over AP's career, his average yards per carry have dropped from 5.6 to 4.8 to 4.4. AP last year only had 3 games where he went over 100 yards, a major disappointment.

AP has had so many carries so early in his carry, and since he plays to the contact he has taken a beating, getting hit more than any other RB. If AP wants to last longer in the NFL, he will have to change his style. AP is gonna have to avoid the big hits and contact if he wants to survive longer in the NFL, and he knows that. Therefore, he wont run as hard, or else he will be LT at a younger age.

As for Gerhart, we haven't seen anything from him in the NFL. Sure, he is pounding some college kids, but less see him do that to players bigger and stronger than him in the NFL.


My pick came down to two backfields, the Baltimore Ravens and the team I am picking...The Miami Dolphins. The backfield is Ricky and Ronnie.

Some quick notes:
- Ronnie Brown gained 68.5% of his yards last season after first contact was made, 3% higher than AP.

- Both are proven power runners in the NFL

- Hilliard and Polite are also both BIG hard power runners


AP is on the decline, therefore he wont be as hard hitting.

I started to address this in the other TD, but here is more appropriate

He is definitely not on the decline. Honestly, I don't how someone can be on the decline after just 3 years.

Last year, teams were still stacking up to stop AP and making Favre beat them. Therefore, the Vikings became a more pass first offense

Therefore, Adrian had twice as many receptions last year as he did the year before. His yards from scrimmage? Just 66 less than the year before. His yards per touch? Went up from 4.9 to 5.1 last year. If anything, last year made him more dynamic. He can now start to be seen as a weapon through the air out of the backfield.

As for R&R, it's a good pick, but nothing like Peterson and Toby. Ricky Williams is old and a shell of his former self. Ronnie is an injury prone player. And neither are seen as a ferocious runner like AP or Toby.

AP and Toby have a great mix of speed and strength. They seek out contact and what to punish people for trying to tackle them. Not the case for R&R


You don't know how someone can decline after three years? How about 986 carries in his first 49 career games? How about taking more hits than any other RB in the last three season?

Peterson takes a beating, and he is slowing down somewhat. His yards per carry averages have dropped every year since joining the NFL (5.6 to 4.8 to 4.4). It even dropped last year, when Favre was added and forced teams to play the pass more!

Peterson is gonna realize, to have a long career as an NFL running back, he is gonna have to take it a bit easier. Save some gas in the tank, and occasionally duck out of bounds, rather taking that extra hit and gaining only one more hit.

And what about Toby? Has he proven anything in the NFL? He is as far from a lock as there is. He wasn't one of the top 4 RB taken in the draft, and he was picked 51st. If he was gonna be such a good RB, I think some team would have taken him earlier. The scouts obviously say something in him, that turned them off him.

Brown averages more % of his yards after contact than AP. I think Brown seeks more contact.

I got two proven RB that run hard, and like the contact.


You don't know how someone can decline after three years?

Your blinded by the rushing yard stat right now. AP has never had a QB anything like Favre. So when he has a QB that can throw the ball, he's going to get less rushes.

But ya know what, he had 30 more catches and 300 more receiving yards last year. He had more yards last year than he had in his first 2 years combined. And he had his 2nd highest yards from scrimmage total.

And how are you determining he's on the decline? He started just 9 games his rookie year, then had 2 great years the last two years. He has a combined 3,704 yards from scrimmage and 28 TDs over the last two years. And he's declining? Are you kidding me right now?

Has he proven anything in the NFL?

You have a point. But you can't deny the fact he's a hard runner. He was a power guy in college and will be asked to do the same thing on 3rd downs this year. He isn't going to be asked to be an every down back.

Ronnie Brown is simply known for being a wildcat RB. He isn't known for much else and definitely not a hard runner. He isn't someone you think of when you hear about RBs trucking defenders.


"he's going to get less rushes."

Yet his Y/PA drop. He should be fresher, and have a higher Y/PA, yet he ranked 24th in Y/PA. Also, with a good QB teams stop stacking the box and putting 8 men in the box, opening up more room to run. Yet, his Y/PA continue to drop.


"He had more yards last year than he had in his first 2 years combined."

What? Did you pass Grade 3 Math? 1,819 yards is not more than 1,885 yards he got the previous season, and definitely not more than the combined 3,494 yards he has gained in his first two seasons.


"But you can't deny the fact he's a hard runner. He was a power guy in college"

Against guys smaller than him, and weaker. In the NFL, the LB are bigger and stronger than him.


"Ronnie Brown is simply known for being a wildcat RB"

Yet he had great success prior to the wildcat, and had his best ever season prior, making the Pro Bowl.

As for him not being a hard power runner, he has more yards after contact than AP.

Besides Ricky > Gehart

Then the Phins have Polite at FB. The Vikings lost their starting FB, and Polite is a big power runner.

July 12, 2010  02:34 PM ET

Give me a few minutes, I have my argument why not Minny, but have to find a new combo. First combo that comes to mind is Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams.

July 12, 2010  02:37 PM ET

Maybe Baltimore. Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, and Le'Ron McClain.

July 12, 2010  02:38 PM ET

Giants got Jacob, but not sure about Bradshaw...

July 12, 2010  02:39 PM ET

No way.. Addai and Brown. I mean sure, Addai likes to dance around in the backfield first and Brown has not proven anything yet, but, well, you know... What are we talking about again?

July 12, 2010  02:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Maybe Baltimore. Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, and Le'Ron McClain.

Was the other I thought of

July 12, 2010  02:50 PM ET

Can anyone find a site that lists the stats for Yards after Contact? I can't find that stat any where.

July 12, 2010  02:51 PM ET

Can anyone find a site that lists the stats for Yards after Contact? I can't find that stat any where.

July 12, 2010  02:51 PM ET

My pick would have been Rinnie and Ricky too. That is a winning pick right there

July 12, 2010  02:57 PM ET

R&R express no doubt about it.miami's wildcat kills....

July 12, 2010  05:13 PM ET

Pervert.

July 12, 2010  05:34 PM ET

Just how hard again?

July 12, 2010  05:48 PM ET

Atlanta with Turner, Norwood, and Snelling. would have been interesting.

July 12, 2010  05:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Atlanta with Turner, Norwood, and Snelling. would have been interesting.

Strangely your right.

July 12, 2010  06:16 PM ET

Smash, Dash and Tash.






[youtbe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ndsUZ6guWM[/youtube]

July 12, 2010  06:18 PM ET

July 12, 2010  06:35 PM ET

Hard to say what Gerhart will do. Maybe he will totally stink on this level. Didn't see a response from left to that.

July 12, 2010  07:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Smash, Dash and Tash.[youtbe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ndsUZ6guWM[/youtube]

Fragile at best.

July 12, 2010  07:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Fragile at best.

Just watch the videos.

July 12, 2010  09:02 PM ET

"AP is on the decline, therefore he wont be as hard hitting."

hooray for three year trends!!
hooray for rookies dont need adjustment periods once the nfl adjusts to them!

lets ignore that last year he had more tds and yards then his rookie year!

 
July 12, 2010  09:02 PM ET
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"AP is on the decline, therefore he wont be as hard hitting."hooray for three year trends!!hooray for rookies dont need adjustment periods once the nfl adjusts to them!lets ignore that last year he had more tds and yards then his rookie year!

He is on a three year decline. It just keeps getting worse.

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