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  • 07/31/2010, 04:58PM ET

Andre Johnson is the best WR in the NFL

e2w9897 (0-4-0) vs fvkasm2x (193-58-12)
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Andre Johnson is the best WR because of his size, strength, and speed. The past 7 seasons for AJ he has averaged 84 receptions a year including two injury plagued season and his rookie season. he has also averaged 1,135 and 6 TD's and 13.5 yards a catch. People with more experience like Randy Moss have averaged similar in career #'s and his 23 TD season was a fluke(watergate). Moss doesnt get near the yards AJ gets and TD's are oh so close. Not only does Randy Moss not compete but same with Larry Fitzgerald. Fitz has only had 2 good seasons and now with leinart at QB he wont be able to continue his great run. Also has moss won the receiving title 2 years in a row? Has fitz? The answer is NO. AJ has.


AJ is 6'3" and 225 lbs. That isn't overly superior in size or strength or whatever you are talking about... when compared to other receivers. Most of them are cut from the same cloth.

AJ is a great receiver. I am not disputing that. Your argument is lacking though.

1. Moss also has teammates that get the ball just as much. He has to share catches with Welker, who actually had a better season statistically than Moss last year.

It's hard to compare Moss vs AJ when:

A. AJ is the best (and only real) threat on the team
B. AJ is in his prime, where Moss is an aged vet


2. Fitz also has had to share catches, with Boldinn also getting 90 receptions or so over those 5 years.

There is also something called "track record" or "history."

In the last 5 seasons (going back to 2005), Fitz has averaged 90 receptions, 1300 yards and 10 Td's per year. That is also having missed 4 games total in those 5 years.

In 2005, AJ only had 63 receptions for 688 yards in 13 games. The season Fitz played in 13 games, he had 69 receptions for 946 yards.

In terms of fantasy value, probably. In general though, you would have to prove it to me with your arguments.


Youre argument fails. the whole thing is that AJ is the best wr in the nfl and u supported my argument. BECAUSE fitzgerlad had to share with boldin and now have leinart. BECAUSE moss is an age vet and BECAUSE AJ is in his prime. round 1:me. round 2:me


"BECAUSE fitzgerlad had to share with boldin and now have leinart"

It is a simple truth that if you have more than 1 great receiving option, you can spread the ball out more. Look at T.O for the last few seasons. Owens has been a great receiver, amassing large stat totals because he gets thrown to a lot. The last few seasons, his QB's (especially in Dallas) have been throwing to other guys more often. That means low totals for receptions and yards.

The fact that Fitz has HIGH totals for receptions and yards, even though Boldin was getting just as many throws, is a positive. On average, the numbers between AJ and Fitz are eerily similar. If Fitz was the only option all those years, his receptions and yards would be higher.

AJ has high totals as the lone option on offense. If they had a better running game, his receptions and yards would go down. If there was a stronger #2 option (at TE or WR) then they would look to other guys for the pass and his yards/receptions would go down.

He is a great player, but he isn't "hands down" the best.


Forfeited Turn


Good job.

I thought I was in for a tough argument here. Guess not.

July 31, 2010  05:05 PM ET

If he's not #1 he's #1a

July 31, 2010  05:54 PM ET

Anyone interested in a free keeper league for espn?

July 31, 2010  05:55 PM ET

i choose draft order so message me its first come first serve on draft spot...... You can also trade draft picks.

July 31, 2010  06:07 PM ET

Batman swooping in.

July 31, 2010  06:17 PM ET

My Crystal Ball predicts 1 , maybe even 2 forfeited turns.....

August 1, 2010  12:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

My Crystal Ball predicts 1 , maybe even 2 forfeited turns.....

Nope. It should have predicted a train wreck of a second argument. Might actually be worse than a forfeited turn.

August 1, 2010  02:12 AM ET

I agree with left but voted right. Funny how that works.

August 1, 2010  03:24 AM ET

Your using the wrong Johnson left, it should be Calvin Johnson.

August 1, 2010  04:10 AM ET

for the reason you scored yourself,->

August 1, 2010  09:13 AM ET

Left has reading comprehension problems....

August 1, 2010  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Nope. It should have predicted a train wreck of a second argument. Might actually be worse than a forfeited turn.

True, they can always claim IGNORANCE to how this TD'ing thing works, computer failure, etc....

August 1, 2010  09:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

My Crystal Ball predicts 1 , maybe even 2 forfeited turns.....

I had a chance with predicting that....

August 1, 2010  09:32 AM ET

This is really bad. Bring out the TD wh0res.

August 1, 2010  12:39 PM ET

Is left Yupik?

August 1, 2010  01:14 PM ET

e2w9897 said 08/01, 12:46 AM round 1:me. round 2:me




Um, no.

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August 1, 2010  02:04 PM ET

I voted hands down this way. >>>>

August 1, 2010  03:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

If he's not #1 he's #1a

And that's who he's 1a too

August 1, 2010  04:36 PM ET

Good pick by both, but better arguments by the Bats.

 
August 1, 2010  08:30 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Your using the wrong Johnson left, it should be Calvin Johnson.

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