- 07/31/2010, 04:58PM ET
e2w9897 said 07/31, 04:58 PM
Andre Johnson is the best WR because of his size, strength, and speed. The past 7 seasons for AJ he has averaged 84 receptions a year including two injury plagued season and his rookie season. he has also averaged 1,135 and 6 TD's and 13.5 yards a catch. People with more experience like Randy Moss have averaged similar in career #'s and his 23 TD season was a fluke(watergate). Moss doesnt get near the yards AJ gets and TD's are oh so close. Not only does Randy Moss not compete but same with Larry Fitzgerald. Fitz has only had 2 good seasons and now with leinart at QB he wont be able to continue his great run. Also has moss won the receiving title 2 years in a row? Has fitz? The answer is NO. AJ has.
fvkasm2x said 07/31, 05:18 PM
AJ is 6'3" and 225 lbs. That isn't overly superior in size or strength or whatever you are talking about... when compared to other receivers. Most of them are cut from the same cloth.
AJ is a great receiver. I am not disputing that. Your argument is lacking though.
1. Moss also has teammates that get the ball just as much. He has to share catches with Welker, who actually had a better season statistically than Moss last year.
It's hard to compare Moss vs AJ when:
A. AJ is the best (and only real) threat on the team
B. AJ is in his prime, where Moss is an aged vet
2. Fitz also has had to share catches, with Boldinn also getting 90 receptions or so over those 5 years.
There is also something called "track record" or "history."
In the last 5 seasons (going back to 2005), Fitz has averaged 90 receptions, 1300 yards and 10 Td's per year. That is also having missed 4 games total in those 5 years.
In 2005, AJ only had 63 receptions for 688 yards in 13 games. The season Fitz played in 13 games, he had 69 receptions for 946 yards.
In terms of fantasy value, probably. In general though, you would have to prove it to me with your arguments.
e2w9897 said 08/01, 12:46 AM
Youre argument fails. the whole thing is that AJ is the best wr in the nfl and u supported my argument. BECAUSE fitzgerlad had to share with boldin and now have leinart. BECAUSE moss is an age vet and BECAUSE AJ is in his prime. round 1:me. round 2:me
fvkasm2x said 08/01, 01:38 PM
"BECAUSE fitzgerlad had to share with boldin and now have leinart"
It is a simple truth that if you have more than 1 great receiving option, you can spread the ball out more. Look at T.O for the last few seasons. Owens has been a great receiver, amassing large stat totals because he gets thrown to a lot. The last few seasons, his QB's (especially in Dallas) have been throwing to other guys more often. That means low totals for receptions and yards.
The fact that Fitz has HIGH totals for receptions and yards, even though Boldin was getting just as many throws, is a positive. On average, the numbers between AJ and Fitz are eerily similar. If Fitz was the only option all those years, his receptions and yards would be higher.
AJ has high totals as the lone option on offense. If they had a better running game, his receptions and yards would go down. If there was a stronger #2 option (at TE or WR) then they would look to other guys for the pass and his yards/receptions would go down.
He is a great player, but he isn't "hands down" the best.
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