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upended said 08/17, 05:31 PM
University of Michigan football will have a turn around this year. There are many signs pointing to this. Rich Rod Runs the Spread Offense which takes a while to recruit for and adjust to for the players (i will go in to more detail later on). Another point is the team showed flashes that they can be pretty good last year(ND game). Any program is going to suffer a little bit with 2 freshmen quarterbacks. This year i think Tate Forcier will start the season off as the starter but eventually Denard will pass him, Denard had a good spring this year(remember last year he did not practice in the spring). This teams seniors were still around for Lloyd Carrs final season and know what it feels like to win and go to a bowl game. They are sick of losing and will lead the team to a winning season.
PatsFan21 said 08/17, 05:46 PM
There are several problems facing Michigan this year:
1) NCAA Discipline
While this may not have statistical impact on this season, it could definitley pose as a distraction. Will Michigan be able to stay focused on their goal of a winning season or will the many rumors about NCAA discipling the school be too much?
2) Coaching
Lets face it. Rich Rodriguez has been a disaster at Michigan. Before he got there they were a perennial power in college football. Now they go 1-7 in the Big-10. Rodriguez has been a train-wreck so far and all signs point to another disappointing season with him at the helm.
3) Inexperience at QB
While Forcier and Robinson are now sophmores, neither are anywhere near polished. Forcier tossed 4 INT's last year against OSU and Robinson had doubled his TD total with INT's. He also only completed 45% of his passes and one in every 7 was a pick. Is that who you want leading your team? Because you said you expect Robinson to pass Forcier.
4) Lack of proven run game
Michigan will count on a RS freshmen and a soph to lead the run game this year. The Soph had only 276 yards last year and the Freshmen has never had a carry.
MMTC
upended said 08/18, 11:46 AM
1) All of the NCAA Disciplinary things have pretty much been forgotten. That was almost a year ago and although Michigan did not have the greatest of seasons, it can not be blamed on that, remember they started 4-0
2) You must realize that changing from the power running game Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr used to Rich Rod's Spread Offense takes some time. Rich Rod went 3-8 his first year at west virginia. The next year he went 9-4. Last year it was a very inexperianced team still learning the system.
3)Denard Robinson did not enroll early last year, unlike Tate so he did not know the offense very well and was uncomfortable. Denard still showed flashes last year( His first college snap was a broken play where he fumbled then ran for a 43 yd TD). Tate showed poor decision making at times, but you can expect that with a freshmen. He also showed amazing poise and leadership at times as well ( notre dame game)
4)Michael Shaw and Vincent Smith both can be the speedy home run hitters like carlos brown was last year. They also have talented freshman Fitzgerald Touissant.
Remember the Title is that they will have a winning record next year, i will discuss schedulenextarguement
upended said 08/19, 08:36 PM
Ok, my oppenent forfeited so i will talk about the schedule.
Uconn- W First game in the new remodeled big house, i think they can get it done
At Notre Dame- W In a close one, Notre Dame junior qb Dayne Crist has 20 career pass attempts and his inexperiance will show at the end of the game
Massachusetts-W no explanation needed
Bowling Green- W ^same^
At Indiana- W- Just like last year, Michigan will win at the end in a high scoring game
Michigan State- L Michigan State has a very good defense, i predict tate forcier will struggle a lot
Iowa- L Michigan's offensive line can not contain Adrian Clayborne, i predict this is when Denard Robinson will pass Tate Forcier
At Penn State- L Evan Royster will run all over Michigans D', Penn State's Defense will pressure Denard/Tate a lot
Illinois- W With no juice williams, does not pose much of a threat
Purdue- W
Wisconson- L Michigan can not stop John Clay, and even if they do, Scott Tolzein is a very efficent QB
Ohio State-L Although i think this year the game will be a lot closer than the last few, Terrelle Pryor will throw at will against the 3-3-5 defense that puts a lot of pressure on CBs
7-5
PatsFan21 said 08/20, 12:32 AM
Yes, my internet shut down and I could not argue. Sorry about that.
First, from your 2nd, saying that the NCAA probes are over is ridiculous. UM is still waiting for possible sanctions from the NCAA.
Second, you are correct R-Rods' run attack takes time to adjust to. Which means do expect much out of their running game featuring a first year starter getting the bulk of the carries.
Third, one out of every 7 passes last year for Robinson were INT's. Do you really want him leading your team? He doubled his TD total with INT's.
Lets Talk Schedule:
Enough said about Bowling Green and UMass? Thats weird, because thats what happened when a certain Wolverines team played against App. State. How did that work out again?
UConn-Your reason for UM beating UConn is because they have a remodeled stadium? That may just be the craziest thing ive ever heard.
So while your saying they will win those 7 games, (which i disagree with) that means they cannot afford an upset, which is bound to happen. With 2 inexperienced QB's, UM is bound to lose a game they should have won. Plus, I dont think they can beat UConn.
UM is just not good enough and has a crappy coach.
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CUSE!! ...
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Pickle_T.Johnstone
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I was @ Michigan the last time Cuse and Michigan played, yea, it was long ago.
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wow! ur really funny
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i wanna now who voted for him besides himself...thats crazy.
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we'll see in a few months I guess
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Ah Michigan, never has a school been so irrelevant (1 NCAA title since 1950) and gotten so much national press and attention for doing nothing.
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I may not have love for Michigan, but the rivalry does lose some of it's luster if one of the teams is having a rough time. There were many times when the roles were reversed and OSU was having some losing patches. I'm sure the AD will find the right person to turn it around and bring it back to prominence, but I'm not sure that Rich Rod is the right guy to it.
Time will tell if this is a failed experiment or not but having the NCAA come down on them, when they have always been clean, was definitely a step in the wrong direction.
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I never say that.
Its:
DAMN!!!
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i have tried posting my arguement 3 times and every time it just refreshes the page and says i didnt post it
upended
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THERE WE GO!!! finally it worked
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As a Michigan fan I will admit that they do get over hyped, but saying "irrelevant" is extreme hyperbole.
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My only TD (I believe with DJ) I had that problem. Using firefox?
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yeah i am using firefox, i switched to internet explorer and tried it on that, and it worked
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Michigan has many question marks. But there are still 7 beatable teams on the schedule.
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firefox counts the characters wrong so instead of trying to get it to 1200 characters cut it off when it says like 1151. I am not sure of the exact amount but I think 1150 some characters is the limit for firefox. I always just end it at 1151
Chosen1
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How far you have fallen, team up North. It used to be we were debating who would win the Big Ten, and now we are wondering whether or not you will have a winning season.
For real though, we miss you. We miss beating a respectable team. It's like watching a friend slip into drug addiction. We are just watching you destroy yourself. RichRod? How about you hire someone worthy of coaching Michigan. You have failed us as a rival. You have failed yourself.
KillerNut101
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With meeeechegan returning almost the same team as last years I just don't see that much improvement in RichRod's bunch. Their only W the last half of the season was against powerhouse Delaware State. And had it not been for RichRod pulling a rabbit out of a helmet versus Indiana last year the wolverines would have went 0-8 in conference. Barring a stunning miracle this will be RichRod's final year there. Than that once proud progam can get the right coach in there and return to respectability. I wonder who's higher on their wish list, Jim Harbaugh or Les Miles?
W_A_M_U?
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RichRod sure has temper, here's a joke for Ohio State fans...
What kind of carR does Coach Tressel OWN?
He used to own a Lloyd CarR and traded it in for a HotRod.
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Michigan will blow for a while
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