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  • 09/30/2010, 06:32PM ET

LeBron does it again

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As most of you have heard, LeBron played the race card, saying that the reason he became so hated was because he's black

I'm not even going to address the stupidity of that comment, but what I will ask is, has LeBron now became the most hated athlete in sports?

I say yes.

It wasn't enough for him to betray a team, town, and state in the most unbelievable way ever, but he can't even accept the criticism.

He claimed he knew that people would be upset, but now he says that it's only because he's black.

I lost a lot of respect for LeBron following the decision, but now he's lost it all. Playing the race card was totally inappropriate in this scenario.

So I challenge you to give me someone that's more hated in sports right now. I honestly don't think there is someone. No one has from as the highest high to the lowest low like LeBron just did in the matter of one summer. In fact, I'm not sure anyone has had a drop-off this huge short of someone like O.J.

LeBron is the most hated athlete in all of sports, period


I am going to say Mike Vick is more hated....


I want everyone to think about several statistics from a December 30th 2009 article from the Humane Society

1) it said there was 77.5 million owned dogs in the US
2) it said 39% of the households in the US owned at least one dog

Now not all of but I would say a very large majority of those owners would condemn the fighting, torturing and senseless killing of dogs.

Many people in the United States view their dogs as companions, friends and a part of their family. So for this alone Vick has gained much dislike and hatred from others.




You have the people who dislike him for his overall long list of incidents

1) sued for knowingly passing on genital ****
2) possessed a stolen watch given to him by members of his entourage
3) failed drug test
4) financially running and funding dog fighting and illegal gambling
5) one of his co defendants in the dog fighting case got shot shortly after an argument with Vick at Vick's birthday party

The list is even longer than those 5 I listed




Then there is his play and the people who disliked him for years and feel he was overrated.


Mike Vick is a respectable choice, but there's a big difference in the two

Vick owned up to his (biggest) mistake

The one we are all most aware of is the dog fighting issue. Honestly, I never knew of the first 3 you listed, so I can't address those.

But as for dog fighting, he admitted his involvement and did his time. Do people still hate him? Absolutely.

However, the fact he did the time just like any other human being would have done doesn't necessarily make people fine with him, but they respect him in some way

LeBron didn't and isn't owning up to his mistakes

Joining the Miami Heat isn't what people are upset about. What they are upset about is the way he did it

Not telling the Cavs beforehand was a mistake
"The Decision" was a huge mistake
Playing the race card was his biggest mistake

He's piling it on further and further at this point and, honestly, I don't think anyone, especially Vick, is as deep as he is

Race isn't why people hate LeBron. Plain and simple. If some great white star like Manning or Brady had done this, I'd hate them as much as I would LeBron

Bringing race into this was stupid and makes him the most hated


When did Vick own up to his biggest mistake? When it helped him.....

When everything first started to come out he denied it for months.

It was not until the evidence piled up against him and people around him started telling on him that he finally took a plea deal. He was trying to keep himself from getting in even more trouble than he did.

On top of the 5 things I listed in argument one Vick has also had

1) his house raided for drugs
2) an automobile registered to him linked to being used by people distributing drugs

What Vick did brought more negative coverage to him and did more damage to his image than what Bron is dealing with.



LeBron changed teams and made a vague comment that race had to do with some of the media coverage on him.

Hearing a person say race played a part in something is not new.

LeBron can be viewed as an arrogant athlete who could do a better job at choosing his words but that is not uncommon for athletes.

LeBron did not do anything illegal, he did not physically harm any person or animal. If we as a society dislike Bron for what he did more than we do Vick it says we have some messed up values.


When it helped him.

I don't see how that helps you're case

You're admitting that he helped himself by admitting his mistakes. Regardless if it was sincere or not is irrelevant.

http://tinyurl.com/37yf35v

Bill Simmons just dedicated his weekly article to why people are rooting for Michael Vick.

People love a comeback story. Whether it be a result of our generation of movies depicting just that, but we root for the underdog.

And now, Vick is an underdog. He's left the spotlight, wronged and re-righted himself and returned

Was he hated? Yes
Is he still hated? By some

But right now, fresh on people's minds in the spectacle that was "The Decision" and because of that, LeBron is a more hated human being.

While I understand the physical pain argument, that's also irrelevant. He essentially ripped the heart out of every Clevelander and stomped on it. Then, playing the race card....

I'll say this. I don't want to be anywhere near Cleveland come Miami's visit there. It'll likely lead to a bad scene

All a result of him being the most hated human being


You say we root for the underdog? You are right I pulled for George Mason in 06 and I clapped my butt off when Eric Davis came back from cancer but Vick is nothing like them.....

Mason was a small school with guys most teams did not want yet they made it to the Final Four and Davis fought back from an illness that could have ended not only his career but his life.



As for Vick

1) went to a major college on scholarship
2) drafted 1st overall in 01

He is nothing like the underdogs I root for because he had the physical ability and injuries or sickness did not derail his career. Vick's downfall was created on his own doing and was given chance after chance.

He is a guy that despite having the following on his resume

1) fighting, torturing and killing of dogs
2) illegal gambling
3) drugs
4) passing on stds

throws a party that one of his dog fighting buddies attends and they got in to a dispute. That night the guy gets shot down the road a couple minutes after Vick left the party.

Vick is still making questionable choices.


There is a reason why Septembers q ratings had Vick as the most disliked athlete and Bron was only 6th

September 30, 2010  06:38 PM ET

I may drop this... because I similar TD in the past. Depends on the angle.

September 30, 2010  06:39 PM ET

did a*

September 30, 2010  06:40 PM ET

All sports? That is a tall order. I hate Curt Shilling more, but I am sure I would never win with that argument. I still hate Randell Cunningham more, but maybe it is time I let that one go.

I am sure there is an international soccer star that is hated more, but I have no idea about that. Just sayn', "In all of sports" is a bold move.

September 30, 2010  06:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

All sports? That is a tall order. I hate Curt Shilling more, but I am sure I would never win with that argument. I still hate Randell Cunningham more, but maybe it is time I let that one go.I am sure there is an international soccer star that is hated more, but I have no idea about that. Just sayn', "In all of sports" is a bold move.

I thought of that while writing, but I doubt it

September 30, 2010  06:44 PM ET

Wilbon on PTI defended the race thing (big shock, since he is black). People don't hate LBJ because he is black, it is because of the way he acted. Did fans love and adore him because they thought he was white before he moved to Miami?

September 30, 2010  06:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

All sports? That is a tall order. I hate Curt Shilling more, but I am sure I would never win with that argument. I still hate Randell Cunningham more, but maybe it is time I let that one go.I am sure there is an international soccer star that is hated more, but I have no idea about that. Just sayn', "In all of sports" is a bold move.

Why hatred for Randall Cunningham?

September 30, 2010  06:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

All sports? That is a tall order. I hate Curt Shilling more, but I am sure I would never win with that argument. I still hate Randell Cunningham more, but maybe it is time I let that one go.I am sure there is an international soccer star that is hated more, but I have no idea about that. Just sayn', "In all of sports" is a bold move.

Kyle Busch in the racing circuit

September 30, 2010  06:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Why hatred for Randall Cunningham?

I'd love to know. Try arguing that angle... Randall Cunningham more hated than LeBron James. You'll be lucky to get a pity vote.

September 30, 2010  07:00 PM ET

I think that people either love Lebron, or hate Lebron. His race card comment won't change anybody's feelings about Lebron, in my opinion.

September 30, 2010  07:03 PM ET

What "coverage" is MeBron whining about? I saw his quote and can't believe that he is actually going there.

He created the entire situation with "The Decision" and making it such a media ploy. ESPN is also faulted for going along with the pathetic display of player worship, but MeBron is accountable for making that whole situation possible.

If he had just signed a contract, no one would have cared.

He is getting just as much venom thrown at him as Favre does because of the same games he plays with the media.

It's very easy when the media is your friend and does what you want them to do for you, but the moment that they don't, we get cries like this out of MeBron and the cries from Favre about the media earlier this year.

September 30, 2010  07:03 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I'd love to know. Try arguing that angle... Randall Cunningham more hated than LeBron James. You'll be lucky to get a pity vote.

He wouldn't even be able to vote for himself.

September 30, 2010  07:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I think that people either love Lebron, or hate Lebron. His race card comment won't change anybody's feelings about Lebron, in my opinion.

might not change anybody's feelings, but may solidify them.

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September 30, 2010  08:05 PM ET

Wait a minute, he plays the race card because his ego can't figure out why so many people are upset with him so he's gonna have a halftime interview during tonights Texas A & M/Ok State game with...LOU HOLTZ???? WHAT? He might just be the whitest person that has ever worked for ESPN. Wasn't Mark May available? Then they could have sat around and bashed Ohio. LeBron taking shots at Cleveland and Mark May taking shots at Ohio State.

September 30, 2010  08:48 PM ET

Doesn't he realize that many of the people hating on him are still just as black as they were when they loved him?

September 30, 2010  09:42 PM ET

Welp, I just proved to everyone that I never was Lou Holtz during halftime shows. I thought it was gonna be an actual interview.

September 30, 2010  09:42 PM ET

*never watch*

September 30, 2010  10:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Changed mine. I have always defended the guy. Not anymore. Playing the race card? What a jackass.

ya, I agree. Only whiners pull the race card when things aren't going their way.

September 30, 2010  10:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Why hatred for Randall Cunningham?

I am a Giants fan, need I say more.

I still have dreams of him kicking a punt on a 4th down play, then blowing out both of his knees in a way that restricts him to a wheel chair for the rest of his life. Hey, its my dream now back off dupe boy!

 
September 30, 2010  10:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I'd love to know. Try arguing that angle... Randall Cunningham more hated than LeBron James. You'll be lucky to get a pity vote.

Like I said with Curt Shilling, it is my cross to bare and would never win a TD. I was just venting.

I actually have no problem with what LJ did. Life is short, he is living it for himself. Good for him.

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