- 09/30/2010, 06:32PM ET
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 09/30, 06:32 PM
As most of you have heard, LeBron played the race card, saying that the reason he became so hated was because he's black
I'm not even going to address the stupidity of that comment, but what I will ask is, has LeBron now became the most hated athlete in sports?
I say yes.
It wasn't enough for him to betray a team, town, and state in the most unbelievable way ever, but he can't even accept the criticism.
He claimed he knew that people would be upset, but now he says that it's only because he's black.
I lost a lot of respect for LeBron following the decision, but now he's lost it all. Playing the race card was totally inappropriate in this scenario.
So I challenge you to give me someone that's more hated in sports right now. I honestly don't think there is someone. No one has from as the highest high to the lowest low like LeBron just did in the matter of one summer. In fact, I'm not sure anyone has had a drop-off this huge short of someone like O.J.
LeBron is the most hated athlete in all of sports, period
Chosen1 said 10/01, 02:00 AM
I am going to say Mike Vick is more hated....
I want everyone to think about several statistics from a December 30th 2009 article from the Humane Society
1) it said there was 77.5 million owned dogs in the US
2) it said 39% of the households in the US owned at least one dog
Now not all of but I would say a very large majority of those owners would condemn the fighting, torturing and senseless killing of dogs.
Many people in the United States view their dogs as companions, friends and a part of their family. So for this alone Vick has gained much dislike and hatred from others.
You have the people who dislike him for his overall long list of incidents
1) sued for knowingly passing on genital ****
2) possessed a stolen watch given to him by members of his entourage
3) failed drug test
4) financially running and funding dog fighting and illegal gambling
5) one of his co defendants in the dog fighting case got shot shortly after an argument with Vick at Vick's birthday party
The list is even longer than those 5 I listed
Then there is his play and the people who disliked him for years and feel he was overrated.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/02, 12:18 AM
Mike Vick is a respectable choice, but there's a big difference in the two
Vick owned up to his (biggest) mistake
The one we are all most aware of is the dog fighting issue. Honestly, I never knew of the first 3 you listed, so I can't address those.
But as for dog fighting, he admitted his involvement and did his time. Do people still hate him? Absolutely.
However, the fact he did the time just like any other human being would have done doesn't necessarily make people fine with him, but they respect him in some way
LeBron didn't and isn't owning up to his mistakes
Joining the Miami Heat isn't what people are upset about. What they are upset about is the way he did it
Not telling the Cavs beforehand was a mistake
"The Decision" was a huge mistake
Playing the race card was his biggest mistake
He's piling it on further and further at this point and, honestly, I don't think anyone, especially Vick, is as deep as he is
Race isn't why people hate LeBron. Plain and simple. If some great white star like Manning or Brady had done this, I'd hate them as much as I would LeBron
Bringing race into this was stupid and makes him the most hated
Chosen1 said 10/02, 01:52 PM
When did Vick own up to his biggest mistake? When it helped him.....
When everything first started to come out he denied it for months.
It was not until the evidence piled up against him and people around him started telling on him that he finally took a plea deal. He was trying to keep himself from getting in even more trouble than he did.
On top of the 5 things I listed in argument one Vick has also had
1) his house raided for drugs
2) an automobile registered to him linked to being used by people distributing drugs
What Vick did brought more negative coverage to him and did more damage to his image than what Bron is dealing with.
LeBron changed teams and made a vague comment that race had to do with some of the media coverage on him.
Hearing a person say race played a part in something is not new.
LeBron can be viewed as an arrogant athlete who could do a better job at choosing his words but that is not uncommon for athletes.
LeBron did not do anything illegal, he did not physically harm any person or animal. If we as a society dislike Bron for what he did more than we do Vick it says we have some messed up values.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/03, 01:09 AM
When it helped him.
I don't see how that helps you're case
You're admitting that he helped himself by admitting his mistakes. Regardless if it was sincere or not is irrelevant.
Bill Simmons just dedicated his weekly article to why people are rooting for Michael Vick.
People love a comeback story. Whether it be a result of our generation of movies depicting just that, but we root for the underdog.
And now, Vick is an underdog. He's left the spotlight, wronged and re-righted himself and returned
Was he hated? Yes
Is he still hated? By some
But right now, fresh on people's minds in the spectacle that was "The Decision" and because of that, LeBron is a more hated human being.
While I understand the physical pain argument, that's also irrelevant. He essentially ripped the heart out of every Clevelander and stomped on it. Then, playing the race card....
I'll say this. I don't want to be anywhere near Cleveland come Miami's visit there. It'll likely lead to a bad scene
All a result of him being the most hated human being
Chosen1 said 10/03, 12:19 PM
You say we root for the underdog? You are right I pulled for George Mason in 06 and I clapped my butt off when Eric Davis came back from cancer but Vick is nothing like them.....
Mason was a small school with guys most teams did not want yet they made it to the Final Four and Davis fought back from an illness that could have ended not only his career but his life.
As for Vick
1) went to a major college on scholarship
2) drafted 1st overall in 01
He is nothing like the underdogs I root for because he had the physical ability and injuries or sickness did not derail his career. Vick's downfall was created on his own doing and was given chance after chance.
He is a guy that despite having the following on his resume
1) fighting, torturing and killing of dogs
2) illegal gambling
4) passing on stds
throws a party that one of his dog fighting buddies attends and they got in to a dispute. That night the guy gets shot down the road a couple minutes after Vick left the party.
Vick is still making questionable choices.
There is a reason why Septembers q ratings had Vick as the most disliked athlete and Bron was only 6th
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