- 10/06/2010, 02:16PM ET
DJRoxalot said 10/06, 02:16 PM
Marshawyn Lynch got traded to the Seahawks and Randy Moss got traded to the Vikes.
I think Lynch was the better trade.
The Seahawks are 27th in the NFL, averaging 79.5ypg with Justin Forsett, Leon Washington and Julius Jones running the ball. Washington is best used like Darren Sproles in San Diego as a change of pace RB.
And Hasselbeck needs a durable RB that can gain yards and help open up the passing game. Like when he had a healthy Shaun Alexander and they were able to run the ball effectively.
They acquired a RB who is in his prime and can gain the tough yards. And can help them win the NFC West which is up for grabs.
The Vikes made a desperate move for Moss who has proven he can be a locker room cancer when not happy. In Oakland and in New England where all they did was win games in the regular season. But made noise with his contract coming up for renewal in the offseason.
How is Favre going to keep everybody happy?
Moss, Jackson, Harvin, Berrian and Shiancoe? This could cause more harm than good.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/07, 03:15 AM
In terms of a better trade, it's got to be the Vikings
We don't know what Lynch has anymore. Over the last two years, he has 157 total carries and 4 fumbles. Was he a one-hit wonder?
With Moss, you know what you're getting. He's not washed up. He's not suspended. He's going to come in and complement Favre and the Vikings system absolutely perfectly. He's going to stretch the field based on reputation alone and open up the middle for Harvin and free space for AP.
And imagine what this team will be like when Sidney Rice comes back. A 4-WR set with Rice and Moss on opposite sides. Both run deep routes with Harvin running an in route in the middle of the field. Plus you have AP coming out of the backfield
How do you defend that?
Listen, people are blowing the OL issue up for the Vikings. The OL was this bad last year, but Favre's WR got open and he could get rid of the ball. However, he hadn't had a true deep threat to open the field this year before Moss.
With him? The Vikings are back to Super Bowl contenders
DJRoxalot said 10/07, 01:48 PM
"We don't know what Lynch has anymore."
Moss is 33.
Lynch is 24.
What he has left? He had 2 1,000 yard seasons. L
ast year? He played in 13 games, just 6 were starts. And this season he played in 4, none were starts. He got in the "Doghouse" and was being punished because they had a capable RB in Fred Jackson and drafted CJ Spiller, spelling his demise in Buffalo.
He has 687 carries. This is not some washed up over the hill RB, Rude....
"With Moss, you know what you're getting."
A headache and cancer. A guy when disgruntled will make noise and distract the Pats from winning games. I remember when he was traded to the Pats and people were saying the Pats would win 2 or 3 in a row. It did not work out like planned, did it? With arguably a better QB in Brady (than Favre).
Lynch is just what the Seahawks need. In a very weeeeak NFC West. Seattle is now the frontrunner to win. While the Vikes still have to compete with the Bears and Packers in a brutally tough NFC North. The Lions are the doormats but they are pushing tougher teams to the limit in close losses.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/08, 11:27 AM
Moss has produced as of late
Age means nothing DJ. Maurice Clarett is 26. Does he have anything left?
They didn't draft CJ Spiller until this year and if you're being replaced by Fred Jackson...?
C'mon DJ. Lynch is a good acquisition for the Seahawks based on what they gave up, but he isn't nearly at the level of what Moss to the Vikings is.
Randy Moss just made the Vikings a playoff team at the minimum again and back to the top of the NFC.
Lynch? Nothing special. He's a good role player, but not someone the Seahawks are going to change their offense to account for. It's not someone who's going to make headlines
All that applies to Moss. He's going to reshape the Vikings offense to reform it just like they were last year. This year, they were starting to become a running team, but not Moss is going to stretch the field. He's going to recreate the dynamic offense the Vikings had last year
Sorry DJ, but Lynch isn't at Moss' level on this one
DJRoxalot said 10/08, 12:57 PM
"Age means nothing DJ. Maurice Clarett is 26. Does he have anything left?"
Comparing Clarett to Lynch?
Thats insane. Clarett never played a reg season game in the NFL!!!
Lynch had 2 1,000 yard reasons.
*Clarett is apparently playing in the UFL*
"Randy Moss just made the Vikings a playoff team at the minimum again and back to the top of the NFC."
Top of the NFC?
Come on Rude. He is 33. He might not be done but he caught just 9 PASSES in 22 passes theown his way this season. Thats 40%, not a good ratio at all. And you cannot blame it on Brady.
"Lynch? Nothing special. He's a good role player, but not someone the Seahawks are going to change their offense to account for. It's not someone who's going to make headlines."
They do not have to reshape their offense. They have a couple of scatbacks in Forsett and Washington who are not suited to carrying the ball 20 times a game.
And again Lynch will help the Seahawks run the ball and WIN the NFC West.
The Vikes have the Packers and Bears to contend with in the North.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/08, 05:45 PM
You totally didn't get the point of what I'm saying DJ.
Just because he's 26 does not automatically mean he has anything left. If he doesn't have the skill set anymore, regardless of age, he won't be good. Skill is always the determining facotr
As for Moss, let's look at his track record
In Minnesota, things weren't going his way, so he demanded and got a trade
In Oakland, the team sucked and he wanted out. He was sent away
In New England, the team wouldn't give him a new deal and he wanted out and got it
Right now, he's going to be in Minnesota for a year. It's his contract year and he has a chance to earn some serious money by playing big for the last 13 games and showing his has some left in the tank. Why would he risk that? That's millions of dollars he could be throwing away?
I watched his press conference yesterday. He's excited to be back. He wants to right his wrongs. ANd he will. The Vikings and Patriots both made out good in this trade
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