- 10/20/2010, 09:11PM ET
Confucius. Trout said 10/20, 09:11 PM
Dilfer's a winner.
He has intangibles and a super bowl ring.
All Dan Marino has is talent, records, and a HOF bust. But he's not a winner like Dilfer and winning is all that matters.
And as we all know, the only person responsible for wins and losses is the QB.
EManning: Go SF Giants said 10/20, 09:27 PM
Just for fun let me put out stats first for everyone to know about
TD: 20518 Yards 55.5 Comp% 113 TDS 129 INT 70.2 RTG in 14 Seasons
DM: 61361 Yards 59.4 Comp% 420 TDS 250 INT 86.4 RTG in 17 Seasons
TD: 1x Pro Bowler 1x Super Bowl Champion with the Ravens
DM: 9x Pro Bowler, MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Is tied or leads 30+ records, Made it to the Playoffs 13 years
How can you call Marino a loser. Yes, he never won the SB but he won far more games then Dilfer did. Plus Dilfer only 4 times in his career has Dilfer played ever game in the season and none of which was the Super bowl season.
In the year Dilfer "won the super bowl" he played a 11 regular season games and had only decent stats in the playoffs because he never through the ball.
Another threat Dilfer had Running Back Jamaal Lewis who had 103 Attempts in the playoffs alone and ran for 1700 in those 20 games he played in that season.
In the Super Bowl he
Confucius. Trout said 10/20, 09:36 PM
Stats don't mean anything if you don't have intangibles, and win in the big game.
Trent Dilfer inspired his team to victory after victory, with no help from anyone else. Marino couldn't do that, ever.
"Yes, he never won the SB but he won far more games then Dilfer did."
So what, the regular season means nothing. To Dilfer, it was just like an extended pre-season, which is why he only played 11 games that year. He was saving it for the play-offs.
Marino is just some sissy stat sheet stuffer who couldn't lead a great supporting cast with absolutely no flaws to a title. While Dilfer carried a bunch of nobodies to the promised land.
Winning the super bowl is all that matters, if you don't then your whole career is completely and utterly worthless. Marino might as well have quit football and started selling insurance, because he obviously was no good.
EManning: Go SF Giants said 10/21, 05:39 PM
He was saving it for the playoffs. Oh really, thats nice to know. I guess that is what Brett Favre and Tony Romo are doing saving to the playoffs that they will never get to.
In all of Dilfer seasons he went to the playoffs only 5 times losing in the first round twice and the second round twice. He only once had success so how does that make him so much better then Marino.
Plus the year that Dilfer won the Super Bowl it was mostly because of there great running game
Jamaal Lewis ran for 104 yards and a TD
Michael McCrary had 2 sacks
Daunte Sparks had a INT returned for a TD
Trent Dilfer did what that game???
153 Yards Passing 1 TD 3 Sacks 1 FF. How does that make him a team leader or star in anyway. They could of played the backup QB and they still would of won.
I agree with you. Being a great QB but with no rings will get you out of the top 5 and maybe the top 10 but Marino does not go all the way down to Dilfer's status.
CARRIED A BUNCH OF NOBODIES TO THE PROMISED LAND. MARINO WAS NO GOOD AT FOOTBALL AND SHOULD SELL INSURANCE. You crack me up
Confucius. Trout said 10/21, 11:37 PM
Stats are evil, they never tell the truth.
This is football not a GOD DAMN MATHALON. We're talking about Quarterbacks not math magicians.
If you want to type away on your little calculator, fine, but don't you try to question MY football knowledge with your complicated equations and fancy shmancy averages.
And don't give me that "he had a lot of help" non-sense. Every football fan anywhere knows that Quarterbacks are responsible for everything that happens.
"153 Yards Passing 1 TD 3 Sacks 1 FF. How does that make him a team leader or star in anyway."
His impact can't be measured with production, it can only be measured by what's inside him. He was the heart and soul of that team, without him that team would've been lost and scared, he gave them the confidence they so desperately needed.
"Plus the year that Dilfer won the Super Bowl it was mostly because of there great running game"
The only reason they were able to run the ball is because Dilfer's presence frightened the defense.
I'm right and you know it math boy.
EManning: Go SF Giants said 10/22, 04:42 PM
Ok Confucius but I think you still are confused
Dan Marino changes the game while Trent Dilfer was a so called team leader. Marino lead his team to the playoffs 13 times and Dilfer 40
I am not saying that Ray Lewis who won the MVP was a leader in anyway or the teams defense who only let 7 points be scored to a very good running game on the Giants side of the field.
Come on man get back to reality if you throw more INT then you do TD nobody cares who you think you are your not going to be as good as a top 10-15 QB of All-time
Dilfer's presence frightened the Giants D. Are you kidding me the Giants just could not stop Lewis because of the nice O line in front of Dilfer. If you cannot throw for over 200 yards in a game why would they be scared of his presence.
One SB win is something that does not make you greater then someone who is truly better than you.
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