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  • 10/21/2010, 01:58AM ET

Tourney of All Tournies: Heisman Front Runner

YODA (106-11-17) vs PatsFan21 (71-42-11)
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Good luck, PatsFan.

There are at least 5 worthy candidates right now...but the Heisman front-runner at this point in the season is Cameron Newton, Quarterback for the Auburn Tigers.

Not only did Newton play backup behind Tim Tebow at the University of Florida, he's now also proving to be a worthy imitator and successor on the field.
Newton is leading an offense in Auburn using his athleticism, strength, and frame (6'6", 250 pounds) to support both the pass and the rush.

A quick summary of Newton's unGodly stats so far...

Rating: 180.53
Yards Passing: 1278
Yards Rushing: 860 (122 avg yards rushing per game!)
Passing TDs: 13, Rushing TDs: 12

And it's important to point out that (as usual) Auburn has a fairly tough schedule, free of excessive cupcakery.


While Newton was on the radar prior to the season, nobody expected such an explosion of offense.
Rushing totals of 171, 176, 198, 188 in 4 of Auburn's 7 games...Crazy.

Newton is providing the highlights that make both the media and the Heisman voters take notice.

(I'll get into the context of some of the numbers above once I see who you're choosing to put up as your candidate).


Very good choice Yoda.

After thing long and hard about this, and changing my mind more than a few times, Ive decided that Kellen Moore of Boise State University is the frontrunner for Heisman.

Moore plays in an offensive style that can and will boost stats which we all know are huge when it comes to the Heisman.

Newton and Moore are different players. Newton has much better speed while Moore is a pocket passer who's accuracy trumps Newton's.

Moore also has amazing stats through the air:

Pass Rating- 190.3
Pass Yards- 1567
Pass TD's- 16

Now obviously Boise does not play in the best of conferences. But Moore has stepped up his game in both of Boise's tough games, Virginia Tech and Oregon State.

OSU- 288 yards, 70% completions, 3 TDs, 190 Pass Rating
VT- 215 yards, 60% completions, 3 TDs, 135 Pass Rating

Moore's stats are not inflated by playing poor teams. He steps up and leads his team to win each and every game.

Finally, to finish off this season, Moore has no real tough tests. His stats are going to be unbelievable and he will be able to say he came up big in both of his team's tough tests.

MMTC


I did look closely at Kellen Moore (along with Oregon RB, LaMicheal James). Arguing QB vs. QB should make this TD a little cleaner.

Our choices have different styles, but are both putting up dizzying numbers. Where we seem to be disagreeing strongly is the context of these numbers.

You point out that "obviously" Boise doesn't play in a strong conference. You also suggest Moore has "no real tough tests" remaining this year. Are these really positives for an individual award?
You said "boosted stats" are "huge" when it comes to the Heisman. I can't agree with this. Sure, raw numbers are important, but the Heisman voters absolultely DO look at Strength of Schedule (and conference). And yes, year-in year-out, the SEC is renowned for its talent, depth, competitiveness, and punishing defenses.

Kellen Moore had similar HUGE numbers last year. And what did it earn him with the Heisman voters? 7th place. So he's going to jump to #1 this year?

So whether we are talking about a Heisman being given out based on performance to date, or whether we are predicting the year-end winner, it is Newton who is achieving his numbers despite the tougher challenges.


Yoda, I would love to continuing arguing this and i hate quitting but unfortunately, i think I need to throw in the towel on this one.

I for one, agree with you, the obvious answer to Heisman frontrunner as of now is Cam Newton and I dont see any way it can be argued other wise.

I also wont be around tomorrow to submit an arguement so I would be forfeiting my 3rd as it is.

Anyways your up 14-4 and have more votes coming regardless.

Congrats on another win. You probably knew you had one as soon as you read the topic.


"I would love to continuing arguing this and i hate quitting..."

Uh, okay.



Fine, white towel accepted.

But WHY didn't you forfeit the entire TD?



Now this TD is going to hang around for another 48 hrs.


You could have saved people a lot of clicks.


Im sorry, I didnt have the time to get on to make arguements. It was a blowout anyway.

You won the TD, why are you complaining?

Sorry I didnt forfeit, I meant to but forgot. My bad

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October 21, 2010  02:15 AM ET
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best of luck to ya both

October 21, 2010  02:56 AM ET
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It's going to be hard to argue against Newton right now.

October 21, 2010  07:26 PM ET
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Aaron Murray will be the front runner come next season.

October 21, 2010  07:27 PM ET
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Moore's stats are not only inflated by playing weak teams. They are inflated also by running up the score on weak teams.

October 21, 2010  07:32 PM ET
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Combined record of Boise St's opponents...

16-24

With only 2 teams with a winning record, Va Tech and Toledo(who is 4-3 playing an even weaker schedule).

October 21, 2010  07:34 PM ET
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Campbell could put a stranglehold on that trophy if he has a big game against LSU on Saturday. Although playing in the WAC Moore has to put up video game type numbers the rest of the year to stay in the conversation. This is going to be a good TD.

October 21, 2010  07:41 PM ET
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Good luck to both. I don't follow the college game as closely as I do the Pro game so best argument definitely takes my vote,

October 21, 2010  07:55 PM ET
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Solid picks for both.

October 21, 2010  08:50 PM ET
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Pick and arguments go to the left for now.

October 21, 2010  09:10 PM ET
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My choice would have been Chipper Jones.

October 21, 2010  09:19 PM ET
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Barkley should be in consideration for it if he keeps up this pace. Newtons the logical frontrunner at this point, but these things can change on a whim. I can't see Moore getting it even if the Broncos end up undeafeted, their schedule is too soft.

October 21, 2010  09:23 PM ET
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Speaking of softness. James on the Ducks doesnt deserve consideration, because no team in the pac 10 plays defense.

October 21, 2010  09:23 PM ET
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QUOTE(#11):
Originally posted 09:10 PM ET  10.21 by BM.

My choice would have been Chipper Jones.

Seconded

October 21, 2010  09:29 PM ET
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Did Ty Detmer actually deserve the Heisman by playing in the WAC? A lot to pounder about.

October 21, 2010  09:30 PM ET
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I like hangin out in the back of the pack with the dark hosses.

October 21, 2010  09:40 PM ET
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What'd you do with them swingin doors? And where's the saw dust on the floor? Why's everybody wearin suits and ties? From where I stand I can't believe my eyes. And who's idea was it to hang them ferns? This brand new bar don't have a single burn. I guess I'm somewhere that I don't belong. I need a juke box and a Country song.

October 21, 2010  09:55 PM ET
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Originally posted 08:50 PM ET  10.21 by |

Pick and arguments go to the left for now.

you really voted after 1 arguement?

October 21, 2010  10:15 PM ET
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QUOTE(#20):
Originally posted 09:55 PM ET  10.21 by PatsFan21

you really voted after 1 arguement?

Let's see:

2,138 > 1,567 YRDs

25 > 16 TDs

Tougher Conference

No contest.

October 21, 2010  10:19 PM ET
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QUOTE(#20):
Originally posted 09:55 PM ET  10.21 by PatsFan21

you really voted after 1 arguement?

And Left brought this all up and yet you went with a player with stats that can't compare vertically or even horizontally.

 
October 21, 2010  10:22 PM ET
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QUOTE(#18):
Originally posted 09:30 PM ET  10.21 by Outlaw...

I like hangin out in the back of the pack with the dark hosses.

I like the long shots, and the left out lost causes....

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