- 10/28/2010, 04:03PM ET
rmoore26 said 10/28, 04:03 PM
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Chris Paul
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Deron Williams
7. Dwight Howard
8. Pau Gasol
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Brandon Roy
Hyped78 said 10/28, 05:03 PM
1 - LeBron James
2 - Kobe Bryant
3 - Kevin Durant
4 - Dwyane Wade
5 - Dwight Howard
6 - Carmelo Anthony
7 - Dirk Nowitzki
8 - Deron Williams
9 - Brandon Roy
10 - Chris Paul
Main changes are:
- Kobe is #2 and Durant #3
I thought of placing either Kobe or LeBron at #1, but for me those two are still #1 and #2.
Durant will get there but let's wait another year and see if his defense improves. Plus, #3 is impressive as it is.
- Chris Paul at #10, not at #4, because of limited action last season (45 games).
That has to matter.
- Wade and Dwight Howard move up
Wade is an elite player and Dwight is, well, the best pure Center in the world right now.
- Carmelo Anthony at #6, you basically forgot about him.
I am personally not a big Carmelo fan (probably because my Pistons should have drafted him instead of Darko Milicic) but he is certainly a top 10 NBA player right now.
Best of luck.
rmoore26 said 10/28, 07:13 PM
Chris Paul has MVP talent when he's healthy, which he is right now. He'll probably lead the league in assists and steals again this year while scoring over 20 points a game.
I would have Howard higher but him always being in foul trouble and playing limited minutes in big games makes me think that the Magic can't win a championship. Also he isn't too good at the line.
Kobe would be 2 but I feel like his body is slowly starting to fall apart on him and I doubt he will play a full season. Look at the Laker's first game, Gasol was their primary source of offense.
It was close between Carmelo and Roy for the 10th spot but I feel like you can trust Roy with the ball in his hands every play and it seems like every time they need a big shot from him he makes it with ease. I like Carmelo a lot but it seems like when he is off he likes to chuck up bad shots anyway.
Hyped78 said 10/29, 04:50 AM
Chris Paul: what you are basically saying is that the fact that he didn't play half of last season doesn't really matter.
Well, I disagree and it does matter.
I mean, about Kobe you say that his body might not hold up, etc etc, but you fail to evaluate Chris Paul under the same criteria.
Carmelo Anthony: again, you cannot leave him out of a top 10 list.
He is more of a team player than what he was when he came into the league and has undeniable talent, especially on the offensive side of things.
Dwight Howard: at least you didn't dispute what I said about him being the best Center in the game right now.
Yes, he has problems at the foul line, that's undeniable.
But two guys named Shaq and Tim Duncan have had the same problems throughout their careers, and that didn't stop them from winning championships and MVPs.
Kobe and Durant: Kobe is the better defender between the two and he has the rings to back it up.
He's going for the 3-peat this season.
And, concerning his health, reasons lead everyone to believe that he will actually be healthier than what he was last season, simply because he took the summer off to rehab.
rmoore26 said 10/29, 12:50 PM
Chris Paul is young and in his prime as far as talent and athleticism. It is a lot more likely that Kobe misses games this season than it is for Paul. Sure it matters, that he missed half of last season. I think that if he didn't you could argue that he was better than Kobe and Durant.
Shaq in his prime and Dwight Howard now are almost the same exact kind of players. They are and were two of the most dominant players in the game. The only difference for me is that teams have been able to almost take him out of the game offensively with good team defense and fouling him hard if he got to the rim.
Carmelo does have undeniable talent as a scorer but thats about it for him. Yes, he has improved his defense but he is the furthest thing from a facilitator and ball handler. I think you need to be a well-rounded player to be one of the best.
There is no doubt in my mind that in his prime, Kobe was a better player than Durant is now. But going into this season you have to think Durant is the better player. He is by far the front runner for MVP and almost single-handedly turned the Thunder from one of the worst in the league to one of the best in the West.
Hyped78 said 10/29, 05:37 PM
So you actually have a crystal ball that showed you that Chris Paul is going to play more games than Kobe this season, because he's younger?
I've got news for you.
Greg Oden is young. How has that been working for him?
Blake Griffin missed his entire first season. Young guy. How did that work?
"I think that if he didn't you could argue that he was better than Kobe and Durant."
You could argue... on the basis of what? You're talking about a "IF" scenario.
"I think you need to be a well-rounded player to be one of the best"
So, again, why did you put Durant ahead of Kobe?
Because Bryant is easily the better defender of the two, while also possessing the offensive firepower Durant has.
"He is by far the front runner for MVP"
Of course he is.
The season just started this week and he's already, and "by far", the front runner for MVP?
Where do you get these things from, anyways?
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