- 11/08/2010, 03:19PM ET
Biakaba: Family Jules said 11/08, 03:19 PM
So, the Cowboys go from having Wade to having Garrett....yippee. It makes no difference. The problem with the Cowboys is Jerry Jones. He's a relevant owner in his own mind. His hubris is enough that he buys in to the BS he shovels every year.
The know how of Jimmy Johnson and his knack for finding great talent in drafts in the 90's is what saved Jerry's bacon through out the 90's. Once the Triplets aged and weren't effective anymore, so goes the story of the Dallas Cowboys.
Jones' want and desire for having a notorious team has overridden common sense. He's brought in me first players with potential but who in the long run end up imploding and throwing egg in the face of the organization. Hell, Tuna couldn't even get a playoff win when he was there.
Wade inherited all the talent in the world but his milktoast approach did nothing to inspire confidence. The Cowboys have no leadership...just a QB with a S.h.l.T eating grin and an awe shucks attitude after evey debacle he heads.
You can't paint a turd...and that is what Jones' is...a turd in an Armani suit. I doubt he'll learn anything from this season. The 'Boys will continue to blow with JJ as owner.
JB: said 11/08, 04:26 PM
Tough as a Giants fan to do this..
Will it matter that Wade was fired for THIS year? No. There will be no playoffs or even 5-6 win season.
However, this lays the groundwork for the next few years.
First of all, this team did win the NFC East last year. They know how to play. The biggest problem is that they don't seem confident, and they aren't trying. They were bad with Romo, but that was the straw that broke the camels back.
There are a bunch of good "free agent" coaches. And I believe that Jerry HAS learned his lesson. I think he knows he needs a strong coach to deal with these players.
You say so many bad things about Jerry, but the team has 3 Super Bowls under his watch. I know they're more than 15 years old, but he can own a team.
The talent level is there, as I said, this team went 11-5 a year ago and won the division. They didn't lose anyone on offense and not much on defense. No one on the team forgot how to play football.
I think their record wears on them. It's hard to get up for a game at 1-7. Not an excuse, but it's obvious. Once they start next season 0-0 it'll be a fresh start for a group of talented players. This was a wakeup call for them.
Biakaba: Family Jules said 11/08, 04:37 PM
I give Jimmy Johnson more credit for coaching up the talent of the dynasty years than Jones. Lets not forget that JJ sent Johnson out of Big D the year after winning back to back SB's and brought in Switzer who did win a SB in '95 but only because the talent was already in play.
Ever since the moment of Johnson's firing, JJ has been chasing that ghost and not even come close to sniffing another ring. Switzer, Dave Campo, Chan Galey, Wade Phillips...all yes men.
The Tuna, a different breed who did a ton to get the 'Boys back to being relevant again and Wade reaped the fruits of Parcells' labor the entire time he coached there, but the Tuna's influence faded and when it came time for Wade to coach the team up...nonexistant.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if you have no one to lead you, you are screwed. Dallas has 0 leaders and no accountability. JJ likes the perks of being an owner in a classic market, but he's not interested in doing the team right. If he was, he'd get out of the way and hire a coacing staff that would build a winner.
He has too much self pride to allow anyone else to gain glory, therefore, the team dies in his shadow.
JB: said 11/08, 07:29 PM
It's weird that you say that. All of a sudden "Dallas has 0 leaders and no accountability". As I said, just a year ago, they were division winners. A division winner will certainly have leaders.
And you say this about Jerry Jones
"He has too much self pride to allow anyone else to gain glory"
umm.. don't you think Jerry Jones has too much self pride to endure 4-12 seasons? I think that this season was a wake up call for Jerry. No one is more disappointed that him that the Giants or Eagles could be potentially popping champagne in Jerryworld come February.
Because of this disappointment, I believe Jerry will hire a strong leader. Cowher is out there. If you truly believe that Cowher would go to Carolina, who has no team and limited bank over Dallas who is full of talent and an open wallet, you're crazy.
And I do think Dungy won't coach again, but money talks, so I wouldn't say never.
This team is full of talent, I know talent doesn't win games, but it helps. As I said, a new coach make this a better team come the off season than right now.
They'll have a terrible taste in their mouth, a top 5 pick, and a new coach and culture.
Biakaba: Family Jules said 11/09, 10:25 AM
When Jerry Jones fired Johnson back in the day, I knew that common sense didn't apply to this particular individual. You would think that losing would take a toll, but Dallas was in the basement from 99-'03 when the Tuna came in to town.
Parcells helped, but Jerry still brought in TO who Bill wasn't fond of. He let up on the leash a tad, but, Dallas still didn't win a postseason game.
Bottom line...Jerry will never recognize he's the problem with the organization. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..you know the rest. If he did bring in Cowher, trust me, it will take time to recover from this.
Dallas has no offensive line...they can't run the ball. Will JJ be disciplined enough to take a OT and OG with his high picks he'll have, or will he do the Emporer move and go for the flash? It will be interesting to see.
Jerry won't change and Dallas will continue to flounder. He's got his stadium, his high ticket prices, concessions for 100,000+ capacity. He says winning matters to him, but, he never proves that it does with his hires.
When he hired Wade, everyone except Mr. Jones knew it wouldn't work. And, it didn't. A team full of stars that is 1-7.
JB: said 11/09, 07:56 PM
I'm not saying it won't take time. But you're simply stating that all of a sudden, the Dallas Cowboys are not fixable. They're the Clippers. They're finished as a franchise decades and decades.
How quickly 2 months changes everything. They're a defending division winner! They have the resources, they have the money.
What was your solution? Keep Wade Phillips? Allow the misery to continue?
I mean come on, the Cowboys won't be a playoff team this year. They may not be next year. But how can we predict that?
I mean, the Chiefs and the Raiders are 1 and 2 in their division. The Rams and Seahawks are tied for the lead. THE RAMS.
You can't predict the future in the NFL. We don't know who the new coach will be, but I believe that they will get a strong coach. There are a ton of names that will be out there. The "free agents" (Cowher, Dungy, Gruden) the likely fired (Marvin Lewis, John Fox).
And let's be real, the Cowboys are a big draw. They'll open the wallet.
Also, I believe the team's effort will improve. I think Jerry has made it clear that everyone is playing for a 2011 job right now. They're all working for a job. They won't go 8-0, but things will look up.
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