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  • 12/01/2010, 11:03PM ET

Despite last week's win over Philly, the Bears are not a legit Super Bowl Contender

PatsFan21 (67-42-11) vs :CubanMissile: (59-24-6)
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The Bears are not a legit Super Bowl Contender. And by that I mean they are not a team with a legit chance to win the Super Bowl.

To start off Chicago plays in a tough division. Say what you want about the Lions but they can be competitive against good teams, the Packers are obviously good, and the Vikings still have good talent. Chicago still has to make trips to Detroit, Minny, & Green Bay. Part of their good record is inflated by playing all their division games thus far.

The Bears record can be misleading. They have wins over Dallas, Carolina, Miami, and Detroit. Detroit and Dallas have talent but each have reasons why they are bad teams this year. Bears toughest road test? A trip to NY to face the Giants in which they were beat by two TD's, 17-3. Their best road win is Miami, enough said.

Chicago at times has an inconsistent, unbalanced offense. Teams like Indy or NE can get away with that and still dominate because they have sturdy HOF QB's who dont throw lots of picks. Cutler at times is unpredictable and wild. He has been better with INT's this year, but could at any time have a 5 INT game.

The Bears are a good but not great time. Great teams wins the SB.
MMTC


I don't see how it can be said they do not have a shot at winning the Super Bowl. In a single elimination type playoff anything can happen. Teams that seem indestructible get knocked out early, and teams that squeak into the playoffs have caught on fire and run the table. The sport has seen 9 wild card teams make the Super Bowl and 5 of them win it. It seems odd to rule any team out, especially when you consider that this year has shown more parody than any other in recent memory.

With the edition of a healthy Urlacher and the signing of J Pep the Bears defense has looked like a Super Bowl defense. We have seen defenses like the Ravens and Giants ride a strong top 5 defense to a SB in the past.

Playoffs often come down to field position, and it would be tough to name a Kicker, Punter, and Return game better than the Chicago Bears. Add to that a defense thats 2nd in pts/g and it will be tough for any team to keep the game out of the Bears reach.

The offense had struggled early, but since the bye week the sacks have cut down and they are completing well over 50% of their 3rd downs. Cutler and the running game are getting better, and have performed when needed.


Ok lets stop the techinicality. They yes could still win the super bowl but so could the Arizona Cardinals. Does anyone think the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl? Didnt think so

You mentioned the Giants and Ravens riding great defenses to the title. Well, the Ravens and Giants had a couple things the Bears dont:

1) Great Coach. Coughlin and Billick were/are 2 of the best in the business. Lovie Smith isnt.
2) Balanced Offense- The Ravens had 2 very strong RB's in Jamal Lewis and Preist Holmes. Dilfer controlled the game.The Giants had one of the best running games in the NFL.
3) Reliable, Experienced Receiving Threat- Shannon Sharpe was a consistent receiving threat. Plax Burress was a great threat for the G-Men.
4) Turnovers- Both teams had excellent T/O ratios. The Bears rank in the middle of the league.

Chicago has yet to have a quality win aside from Philly and dont have a quality road win. They still have the toughest part of their schedule upcoming. Can they handle playing quality teams in back to back weeks? Will Cutler implode? Will the poor running game shoot them in the foot?

This team has too many question marks to win the Super Bowl.


Well unlike the Cards, the Bears are in 1st place. This "tough schedule" includes 3 teams whom they have already beat. Why are they tough teams to face in the future, but weak wins in the past? They don't have a quality road win? They have 1 road loss! They don't make the schedule. Philly was the hottest team, but that apparently doesn't give the Bears any credit. No team has looked dominant.

Jay Cutler could implode. So could other qbs; like the Mannings and Brees who all have more interceptions then Cutler this year. Cutler has had only 2 games with more than 1 interception. As for its "lack of running game." Simple, they didn't run early in the season. Yet, since November they are the 2nd most frequent running team (hence game management); and it's no coincidence they are undefeated since they started to balance the offense. Forte has over 200 yds in the past 2 games, and the bigger the threat of a run the more time Cutler has when they go to the air.

As for the lack of wrs. The Bears have plenty of weapons. Having no #1 allows Cutler to spread it around and make it hard on D's. Knox and Hester can each make game-changing runs and Olson always provide a mismatch.


The schedule has been easier because their toughest games have been at home. They bears are a team that plays well at HOME. They falter on the road. They played a good team on the road in New York and came out with 3 points. They still have to go TO Minny and Green Bay and face NE and the Jets, the two best teams in football.

Cutler has had a good season so far but look farther into that. He's been great against the teams like Detroit (372 yards) but has been wildly inconsistent (4 INT's against WSH, 69 qb rating against seahawks). Cutler eats apart the bad defenses but struggles against good ones in Washington and the Giants. He still has to face GB (already poor performance) and the Jets. He's going to implode.

The Bears run game sucks. Forte has 2 games this year with over 100 yards. He also has 8 games where he failed to rush for 70 yards and in 7 of those didnt hit 50. The Bears have no balance and in the playoffs and late in the season, teams will sit on the pass and force Forte to beat them, he cant.

A lack of good receiver will hurt them. Hester & Knox are below average and they dont have anyone to turn to for big catches.

Bears=one and done come January


It's seems most of your claims are just your beliefs.

They struggle on the road? Only 3 teams have more road wins, and 2 of those have played more road games.

Cutlers going to implode? He's coming off of arguably his best week at qb ever. Against a team many claimed as possibly the best in the NFC the offense went for over 100 yds on the ground and 4 tds in the air. How did they catch those tds though with "no wrs"?

The NFL's a what have you done lately league. Lately the offense has changed to a balance attack and the Bears are riding the 2nd longest win streak.

What team doesn't have possible weakness's?

The media makes it look like Matt Ryan can't be beat at home. Well they tend to not mention that 5 of their 6 home wins are 1 possession games. The Jets have had the same problem putting people away. The Bears have beaten GB and the Eagles already. If the Bears struggle on the road then i guess NE blows seeing as they have a worse road record and a sad loss to Cleveland. Bree's has been even more inconsistent than Cutler and whoever wins the West is beatable.

Every team had problems, theirs no reason the Bears can't continue winning in the postseason.

December 1, 2010  11:08 PM ET

I'd love to take this, mainly because I've been looking for an opportunity to TD PatsFan... won't have the time though.

December 1, 2010  11:09 PM ET

I hope **** sees this and gets the chance to pick it up.

December 2, 2010  08:52 AM ET

Teams like Indy or NE can get away with that and still dominate because they have sturdy HOF QB's who dont throw lots of picks
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ummmmmmmm...Four pickes one game!.......enough said.

December 2, 2010  10:04 AM ET

Cuban, this should be an easy win, unless left figures out how to better present an argument.

December 2, 2010  10:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Cuban, this should be an easy win, unless left figures out how to better present an argument.

WHat is wrong with the way he presented his arguments?

He used capitalization, punctuation, and properly spaced out his points.

December 2, 2010  12:40 PM ET

I think Sweetness' response wasn't properly worded. He may have meant that PatsFan's argument was weak, or fallacious. And to be honest, it was. You can easily pick apart his argument, if you know what to argue. But, to be fair, it was only the first argument, and the space limitation severely cuts down on what you can say per argument.

December 2, 2010  12:54 PM ET

** TEAMS like the Ravens and Giants

December 2, 2010  12:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Cuban, this should be an easy win, unless left figures out how to better present an argument.

Gift wrapped and under the Christmas tree so soon for the CubanMissile.

December 2, 2010  01:27 PM ET

"It seems odd to rule any team out, especially when you consider that this year has shown more parody than any other in recent memory."

Parity, not parody.

December 2, 2010  01:35 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

"It seems odd to rule any team out, especially when you consider that this year has shown more parody than any other in recent memory."Parity, not parody.

kudos

December 2, 2010  01:36 PM ET

They have the D to compete but I'm not sold on the O. I think the Lions get the W this week even with Stanton at QB. Bears got the luck in the first game, it's the Lions turn this time.

December 2, 2010  01:39 PM ET

Guess we'll know soon after they play the Pats and the Jets

December 2, 2010  01:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I think Sweetness' response wasn't properly worded. He may have meant that PatsFan's argument was weak, or fallacious. And to be honest, it was. You can easily pick apart his argument, if you know what to argue. But, to be fair, it was only the first argument, and the space limitation severely cuts down on what you can say per argument.

You are correct Cubs/Bears. My intent was not to criticize the grammar (I am never in a position to question somebody else's grammar when mine is so poor), I was more pointing to the content it's self. Things like stating in the same paragraph that Chicago plays in a tough division, and then that their record is inflated by having played divisional games already.

December 2, 2010  01:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Guess we'll know soon after they play the Pats and the Jets

I believe that the bears will split the next 4 games 2-2 and their position in the playoffs (and maybe even whether or not they make it) will depend on the results of the last game in GB.

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December 2, 2010  02:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

They have the D to compete but I'm not sold on the O. I think the Lions get the W this week even with Stanton at QB. Bears got the luck in the first game, it's the Lions turn this time.

The offense has actually been much better as of late. The O-line, not so much. Some may be willing to say it's improved. But they still demonstrate time and time again why they have the dubious distinction of being one of the worst (if not flat out THE worst) O-lines in the history of the game. But Martz has incorporated the run more, and Forte was the first back this season to put up 100+ rushing yards against the Eagles. Fumbles have decreased, Cutler has been making more sound decisions, and the 3rd down conversion percentage has been substantially better since the bye week.

As for that luck comment, well, it wasn't luck. It was the result of a correct call. Bad rule, absolutely, and it will almost certainly be addressed. Nevertheless, it was still the correct call, given that it was, and still is, the rule.

December 2, 2010  02:14 PM ET

I agree with right. This season has shown more parody than in recent memory.

December 2, 2010  02:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I'd love to take this, mainly because I've been looking for an opportunity to TD PatsFan... won't have the time though.

Looks like you're in upside mode.

December 2, 2010  02:19 PM ET

*upside down mode. Hope it's all upside, (Un).

 
December 2, 2010  02:23 PM ET

Second verse, same as the first.

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