- 12/22/2010, 09:57PM ET
Assassin: Simile Next year said 12/22, 09:57 PM
For Devin Hester to break the record for all time returns previously held by Brian Mitchell. Devin Hester has a record 14 returns in only 5 professional seasons in the NFL. It took Brian Mitchell 14 seasons. By my math it took Devin 9 less seasons to break the record.
For this lovely throwdown topic: Should Devin Hester be allowed into the Hall of Fame for his special teams prowess?
The answer is YES. Duh. C'mon man!
-4 kickoff returns
-10 punt returns
-108 yard missed field goal return (They don't count it but it shows his explosiveness)
You can never convince me their is a more explosive player on special teams currently or in the past. Never. Nobody changes the game like "Da Hess" does every season. Every week teams have to gameplan around his and the Bears special teams.
He has the highest punt return average this year at 16.1 yards a pop. The Vikes didn't plan on punting to Hester, they do he takes it back to the house. The Jets don't plan on punting to him, lets hope they learned something.
Good luck whoever.
Sout said 12/23, 09:48 AM
First TD - so take it easy...
I believe Hester is already allowed into HOF, he just has to pay his admission at the door.
But more seriously he will not be voted in by the writers who do so. These are the same jacks that have not voted in Ray Guy, Brian Mitchell, Steve Tasker, Dave Meggett, Billy "white shoes" Johnson, or Mel Gray.
Until one of the the guys I mentioned gets in I do not think that Da Hess has a shot, solely as a special teamer. The HOF voters have put people in the hall who have contributed on special teams but it was not their primary position (think of guys like Gayle Sayers, George Blanda, Paul Hornung).
Assassin: Simile Next year said 12/23, 09:55 PM
This is my 184th TD- take it easy on me please. Lol
I believe Hester is just going to walk into the doors of the HOF. How many people have as many returns as Devin Hester right now? No one.
How many seasons has it taken Devin Hester to break the record of 13 touchdowns? 5 seasons
How long did it take Mr. Brian Mitchell? 14.
No one has dominated a certain position as much as Devin Hester has. He will get into the Hall because of the face nobody has done it as fast and as much as him. He changes the game even when he doesn't touch the ball.
Punters "punt away" from him and they put these little 25-30 yard punts out of bounds. I think that changes the game a little bit. Teams plan around Chris Johnson, MJD, or AP etc. Teams have to gameplan Devin Hester.
Coaches wake up during the night about this dude. He changes the game with only his special teams prowess.
262 returns is all it took to break the record. It took Brian Mitchell over 1,000 returns over 14 years.
Devin Hester has dominated what he does more than anyone has ever have. Welcome to the HOF "Da Hess"
Sout said 12/24, 04:52 AM
I agree the Da Hess is a game changer & that he is definitely game planned for.
Currently there is only one pure special teamer in the HOF, Jan Stenerud. His stat line:
373/558 FG (66.8%)
580/601 XP (96.5%)
Compare him to Norm Johnson (antoher K who some think should be in the HOF)
Stat wise, Norm Johnson is better than the HOFer Jan Stenerud & if he is the standard by which K are to be measured shouldn't Johnson be in? I wold say yes.
There is no denying that Da Hess should get his ticket punched but until the current voters decide that Special Teams play is equal to the of Offense and Defense he will not get the opportunity. The recent specialists (Mitchell, Tasker, etc.) have paved the way for Hester (recognition of special teamers). He has knocked down the door, but will any of the voters be home? No. They'll be busy presenting a current QB, RB, or WR to their comittee that they believe warrants HOF consideration over a special teamer.
Assassin: Simile Next year said 12/24, 01:53 PM
Brian Mitchell and other special returners paved the way for Devin Hester. It is getting the special teamers noticed like you stated. Devin Hester is paving the way for himself. He is dominating Special Teams.
No one has dominated something like he has in so little of time.
He broke the record in the shortest time ever. That will catch the eye of the voters and I am sure of it.
Brian Mitchell averaged 1 return touchdown a year.
Devin Hester averages around 3.
Please take in the fact that Devin Hester isn't done. He still has at least another 5 years as a player in the league if not more. So in 5 seasons he as 14 returns, if he keeps playing the way he is for 5 more years he would have 28 returns. That blows the second place way out of the water.
Let's compare real quick:
In the first three years of their career
Devin Hester: 11 returns
Desean Jackson: 4
Brian Mitchell: 3
Another stat that show Devin's dominance of the Special teams. All of this will be accounted for when the voters vote him into the HOF someday when he retires.
Sout said 12/25, 01:54 PM
When players are drafted into the NFL out of co;;ege they are drafted as QB, WR, TE, OL, DL, CB, S, K, P, etc..I have not seen someone drafted as a ST. When Hester was drafted he was drafted as a cornerback. The NFL itself does not recognize special teams & special teamers as it should. It is one of the three phases of the game and talents such as Hester & his predecessors had to be game planned for.
The only time you see a significant call out for special teams is during pro bowl voting where there is a spot for a special teamer outside of your punter & place kicker. Outside of pro bowl voting Hester will always be a CB turned WR who was a great KR. He will never be designated as soley a KR. It will always be WR, or WR/KR. You will never see him or any of his teamates who play other positions be called GN (gunner?) or ST for that matter.
Did you see that offensive lineman for New England return that kickoff? He was an offensive lineman & not a special teameHe had the longest kickoff return by an offensive lineman in history. I wonder who holds the DL, TE, LB records!
Special teams matter during the regular season & playoffs. Not when it comes to HOF voting!
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