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  • 12/24/2010, 01:48AM ET

NFL's Most Snakebitten Franchises

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1. Minnesota Vikings: 0-4 in Super Bowls, excruciating losses in the biggest on contests, always getting so close and falling at the finish line ('98, '09, '69, '75).

2. Cleveland Browns: The Drive, The Fumble, and to top it off losing their franchise to Baltimore.

3. Buffalo Bills: 4 consecutive Super Bowl losses, the Music City Miracle, Wide Right, Thomas forgetting his helmet.

4. Detroit Lions: 0-16, one playoff win since 1957.

6. Philadelphia Eagles: 5 NFC Titles in 8 years and all they have to show for it is an 0-1 Super Bowl record.

7. New Orleans Saints: Yeah the Saints nabbed a Super Bowl, but let's not forget the 'Aints.

8. Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans: A yard of a Lombardi, Renfro's no TD vs. Pittsburgh, leaving Houston, collapse against the Bills in '93.

9. Kansas City Chiefs: Despite early success, the Chiefs experienced a drought until the 1990s, when KC experienced heartbreak after heartbreak.

10. New York Jets: After one of the greatest upsets of all time, the Jets have suffered through Marino's fake spike, Mark Gastineau's late hit, Doug Bryant's miss vs Pittsburgh, Bill Belichick leaves the Jets for the Pats.


Here are my changes.

Replace the Jets with the Chargers and the Saints with the Bengals.

Chargers.........

Speaking as a fan, sometimes it feels like going through open heart surgery without anesthetic. You have the:

-81 AFC Championship game being played in record low temperatures

-getting blown out by the 9ers in their only super bowl

-Kaeding's gaffs (GW FG miss in '04 post-season, 3 misses against the Jets in a 3 point game, and a miss against the Pats that would've sent the game to overtime)

-Marlon McCree's fumbling after making the GW INT against the Pats.

- Philip Rivers, LT, and Antonio gates all having significant injuries heading into the 07 AFC Championship game.

-And of course, you have the drafting of Ryan Leaf.....

Bengals

-Greg Cook's injury

-2 Super Bowl losses against Bill Walsh, a former Bengal assistant and cantidate for their HC job.

- The 90's.......

- Carson Palmer's injury, Oh what could've been.


The Chargers have had some difficult moments, but who would you replace them with? I know that not having a Super Bowl may trump those teams that do have one, but snakebitten just doesn't mean not having a Super Bowl.

Since you didn't mention which teams you would replace them with, I'll assume its the final two teams on the list. I'll start with

Joe Namath probably made a deal with Satan right before Super Bowl III that let NYJ win pull off the upset and the Jets would win anything for the rest of Namath's life. The Jets have experienced heartbreak after heartbreak.

The Jets have experienced fiascos with head coaches. Lou Holtz, Walt Michaels, Al Groh, Pete Carroll (there are plenty more) and all these coaches got crunched under the New York pressure. Not to mention BB leaving the Jets after being the coach for 32 minutes and moving on to be the best coach of our era for their division rivals.

The Jets have been begging for a good coach to lead them to a Super Bowl, but the Jets haven't even sniffed a Lombardi trophy. Its been 40 years.

The Jets go before SD or the Bengals.

More to come


"Since you didn't mention which teams you would replace them with, I'll assume its the final two teams on the list."

Read the argument closely, like the second line of the TD.........


So you have some bad coaches and bad teams, is that all it takes to be snake-bitten? Nope.

Try having 2 of the greatest offensive minds of all time, Sid Gillman and Don Coryell, and not having a NFL Championship. At least Jet fans will always have Super Bowl 3, the most important game in pro-football history, what do the Chargers have? Nothing but disappointment.

Have the Jets ever had a moment like the drafting of Ryan Leaf? Drafting a guy #2 over-all that was supposed to save your franchise, and instead made them even worse?

You say "Doug Brien missed a kick", Nate Kaeding has single handedly prevented the Chargers from winning the Superbowl. 2004, 2006, 2007, and 2009, all those teams had a shot at winning it all, and all lost because Nate Kaeding SUCKS. If the Chargers had a guy like Vinatieri, they might've been the team of the decade.

The Jets history may not be sparkling, but it's definitely not as unlucky as the Chargers'.


Sorry must have skipped that part. My bad.

In a way, winning the Super Bowl has made it all that worse for NYJ. The Jets have had to wait for over 40 years to have that feeling again, while they had to sit and watch in state rivals go to a combined 8 Super Bowls.

As for the Saints, I know that a Super Bowl win has many thinking that they dont deserve to be on this list, but let's not forget the 'Aints.

No winning season in their first TWENTY years.

Ditka trades his entire draft for Ricky Williams.

The bags on their heads

The Saints were so bad for so long, and no matter how hard they tried they always found a way to dig a deeper hole (barring recent events). The 'Aints need to be on this list for being such a large part of being bad in the NFL.


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December 24, 2010  01:56 AM ET
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I would move the Browns at the top of the order. The original team leaves and wins a Super Bowl and what does Cleveland get? Lebron James.

LeBron isn't really related to the Browns.

December 24, 2010  02:22 AM ET

And FTR, all those Charger..... miscues....... are just off the top of my head.

December 24, 2010  05:06 AM ET

Agree that Bengals should replace Saints...Saints have won a SB while Bungles are 0 for 2 and can't put together back to back winning seasons. So right it is.

December 24, 2010  06:18 AM ET

What about the Washington Redskins? Sure they've won SB's in the past, but their free agent moves over the past several years have been disastrous.

December 24, 2010  07:06 AM ET

The most snake-bitten city is definitely the Toilet of Philly!! 128 years-- 2 World Series!! No Super Bowl Rings!!! Flyers might be the only shining light in this cess-pool of a loser-ville! Forget about the sixers--- they smell worse than the Toilet itself!!!

December 24, 2010  07:16 AM ET
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The most snake-bitten city is definitely the Toilet of Philly!! 128 years-- 2 World Series!! No Super Bowl Rings!!! Flyers might be the only shining light in this cess-pool of a loser-ville! Forget about the sixers--- they smell worse than the Toilet itself!!!

They do have NFL championships. The NFL was playing championship games prior to the inception of the SB.

December 24, 2010  07:28 AM ET
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The most snake-bitten city is definitely the Toilet of Philly!! 128 years-- 2 World Series!! No Super Bowl Rings!!! Flyers might be the only shining light in this cess-pool of a loser-ville! Forget about the sixers--- they smell worse than the Toilet itself!!!

You are a classless hypocrite. Just sayin...

December 24, 2010  07:34 AM ET

No Arizona Cardinals? Legend has it they've been cursed since they robbed the Pottsville Maroons of a title in 1925.

December 24, 2010  07:48 AM ET
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You are a classless hypocrite. Just sayin...

He's just an ****. The Declaration of Independence was signed in Philadelphia, the Liberty Bell resides there. Great city with a great history. Plus, I love Philly cheese steaks.

December 24, 2010  08:03 AM ET
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Plus, I love Philly cheese steaks.

It's not a Philly cheese steak without Cheez-Whiz.

December 24, 2010  08:09 AM ET
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It's not a Philly cheese steak without Cheez-Whiz.

Orange cheese from a can at room temperature.

Count the problems with that statement.....

December 24, 2010  08:10 AM ET
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It's not a Philly cheese steak without Cheez-Whiz.

Oh, you heathern. Just don't suggest Mayo on a Philly cheese steak. Weapon X will get upset.

December 24, 2010  08:14 AM ET
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Orange cheese from a can at room temperature.Count the problems with that statement.....

Count the number of times you have to go to the bathroom.

December 24, 2010  08:42 AM ET

Minnesota...





December 24, 2010  09:04 AM ET
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Brett Favre getting hit with the football to the groin - Video

...and the NFL's ironman goes down!

I like how all the other players and coaches just walk away.

December 24, 2010  09:15 AM ET
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...and the NFL's ironman goes down!I like how all the other players and coaches just walk away.

I wonder if Jenn Sterger was throwing the ball at him.

That would be great!

December 24, 2010  09:20 AM ET
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They do have NFL championships. The NFL was playing championship games prior to the inception of the SB.

Young bloods don't realize that Dave.

Merry Christmas Eve Day!!

December 24, 2010  09:21 AM ET
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Young bloods don't realize that Dave.Merry Christmas Eve Day!!

Thanks. Having a good time in TX.

December 24, 2010  09:22 AM ET
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What about the Washington Redskins? Sure they've won SB's in the past, but their free agent moves over the past several years have been disastrous.

WOuld rule them out only because they do it to themselves.

 
December 24, 2010  09:23 AM ET
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Would rule them out only because they do it to themselves.

I find it sad. Love the rivalry. They did give the Cowboys a helluva game.

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