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  • 01/09/2011, 10:37AM ET

Marshawn Lynch was an excellent trade for the Seahawks

DJRoxalot (1085-669-126) vs Agrippa: (120-61-23)
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I did this when the trade went down and got ripped. Here are just a few things that were said:

"He is done."

"He sucks."

"He had one good year."

Now, he did not do real well in the regular season with Seattle.

165 carries for 573 yards (in 12 games), 47.8ypg, 3.5 ypc with 6 TD's

Yesterday was the reason the Seahawks traded for him.

The guy is a workhorse RB that can be a difference maker for a team that needs a RB to rely on. He is a powerful RB that can run between the tackles and has deceptive speed as well.

That 67 yard TD run was one of most amazing runs I have ever witnessed in recent memory. He was boucing off defenders and that stiff arm was SICK!!!

Disagree???

Throwdown!!!

BRING THE PAIN!!!

Sorry for the PCH-type slang.


One run does not equal excellence.

In any other circumstance, this trade is disappointing and Lynch does not get to make the run he did yesterday. In the deplorable NFC West, an under .500 team has found luck getting into the playoffs and continued into its luck in a home game they should have never been in.

New Orleans defense was atrocious more-so than Seattle offense and was great.

Lynch numbers this year "47.8ypg, 3.5 ypc with 6 TD's" hardly as "excellent" as you claim.

Seattle is a rebuilding franchise and every draft pick at this point counts.

In exchange for Lynch, Seattle sent a 4th- Rd pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, and a conditional 6th RD pick in the 2012 draft that can become a 5th-RD pick

One run does not offset the fact that he has not surpassed the 1k yard mark since 2008.

You want to make a big deal about one run. Lets talk about a hit and run where Lynch struck and injured Kimberley Shpeley before leaving the scene.

Character is integral in rebuilding a franchise, ask the Bengals.

Yes, Lynch made one great run, however it remains to be seen if this trade is in fact "excellent"


"New Orleans defense was atrocious more-so than Seattle offense and was great."

NO was 16th during the season vs the run.
4th in total ypg allowed.
4th in passing ypg allowed
7th in ppg allowed

Not as "atrocious" as you make it sound. Not by a longshot.

"Lynch numbers this year "47.8ypg, 3.5 ypc with 6 TD's" hardly as "excellent" as you claim."

1-He was getting used to a new offensive system and that takes time.

2-Seattle lost 9 games by 15 or more points. Meaning they had to throw a lot to try and get back into the game.

"Lets talk about a hit and run where Lynch struck and injured Kimberley Shpeley before leaving the scene.

Character is integral in rebuilding a franchise, ask the Bengals."

People make mistakes. Have you ever done anything you have regretted?

"Yes, Lynch made one great run, however it remains to be seen if this trade is in fact "excellent"

I think a playoff win is well worth a couple of low level picks.

If it was a 1st or 2nd rounder? I would agree. But come on, seriously. A 4th and 5th round pick for a bruising RB that could fit their offense a lot better than LenDale White?

Well worth it.


He has proven to have questionable character!

"People make ........ anything you have regretted?" - Yes, but Lynch has made several mistakes and does not seem to learn from them.

In 09,Lynch was arrested while sitting in a running car. Cops approached smelt marijuana, police searched the car and found a loaded gun that was determined to belong to Lynch.

In the same year he was accused of stealing $20 from a the wife of a Buffalo police officer at a local TGI Fridays?!

This is not a man who makes one little mistake here and there. This is a person with questionable character and has proven to exhibit a pattern of behavior that is detrimental to himself and his team.

Make all the excuses you want, this is the NFL, 47.8 YPG is 47.8 YPG.

The facts remain, you have an under .500 team who finished 31st in the NFL in rushing. Hardly a success. One lucky playoff win does not make excellence.

Teams are built on late picks and Seattle is lacking at several positions.

He may in fact prove to be a great addition, but lets not jump the gun.

Lets not drink the ESPN cool-aide and reserve that distinction till Lynch can contribute more than just one run.


"Make all the excuses you want, this is the NFL, 47.8 YPG"

Here is the Stat of the night!!!!

Seattle lost 9 games by 15 points or more. What does this mean?

It means they have to pass to try and get back in the game and win!!! Teams cannot expect to run the ball and burn the clock when they are trailing by 2 TD's or more. That is Football 101, my friend.

The Seahawks attempted 544 passes (34 per game) to just 385 run attempts (24).

Lynch? Had just 1 fumble. He holds onto the ball. And had several games where he played well during the regular season.

Let us not kid ourselves, Gripp. Not every late pick is Tom Brady. A lot of late round picks never make it more than a few years in the NFL.

"Lets not drink the ESPN cool-aide and reserve that distinction till Lynch can contribute more than just one run."

Irrelevant. I rarely watch Sports Center.

Gripp? Hold off on submitting your last argument till late tonight or early Tuesday? I want this to get maximum exposure. Good TD, buddy. Always fun and a challenge when we square off. Makes me think back to better times when FN was chock full of TD'ers who went at it in the FN Octa


"It.... win!" - Or it could mean, they failed to maintain a balance offense and had to defer to the pass game.

There is a reason they were ranked 31st in rushing and I doubt it had little to do with them playing from behind. I think the playing from behind had more-so to do with their lack of rush attack. THAT IS THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION, my friend.

Not every late pick is supposed to be Tom Brady, but trading two picks that could very well pan out to be important missing pieces of your team for a RB who has not had a decent season in 3 years and has had countless off the field issues, can hardly be explained as "excellent"

My point is, with Americas SUPERSIZE , SENSATIONALIZE, LATEST TREND , CONSUME culture, we oft get caught up with flashes in the pan or the next big thing, that usually proves to be an anomaly.

Lets look at the overall picture. Football is a team sport , Seattle is an under .500 TEAM that needs every bit of new talent they can get their hands on.

Forget the ONE RUN, if you take EVERYTHING into consideration, grading this trade at this point is anything but "EXCELLENT"

Lets hold off till the numbers are in Lynch's favor.

January 9, 2011  10:46 AM ET

well it would tough for anyone to disagree with you here

this seems more like a i-told-you-so TD

i actually kind of agreed with you, i drafted lynch on a couple fantasy teams late (but never kept him) because i thought he would easily take the starting role but from what i know it was pretty split between running backs out there

January 9, 2011  10:47 AM ET

Yeah, I thought it was a bad trade at the time, but even if he did do badly in the regular season with them (which he didn't) that amazing run made up for it.

SICK!!! is a good way of describing it, to quote DJ

January 9, 2011  10:54 AM ET

Marshawn Lynch took about 5 or 6 Saints manhood to the end zone with him.

January 9, 2011  10:57 AM ET

Ooooooooh!!!

Un steps into the FN Octagon!!!

January 9, 2011  10:57 AM ET

*Cracking my knuckles*

Let's go, Un....

January 9, 2011  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Yeah, I thought it was a bad trade at the time, but even if he did do badly in the regular season with them (which he didn't) that amazing run made up for it.SICK!!! is a good way of describing it, to quote DJ

Borrowed it from PCH....

January 9, 2011  10:58 AM ET

I have watched that run like 3-4 times this morning....

January 9, 2011  11:42 AM ET

Bring it, Gripp.

Want to go "Old School?"

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/136223-the-lakers-are-the-favorit es-in-the-westpick-a-team-you-think-is-if-you-disagree?category_id=17

January 9, 2011  11:44 AM ET

This is old school. And lol at this guy for thinking JaMarcus was good: http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/5388-brady-quinn-will-not-have-a- more-successful-year-than-jamarcus-russel

January 9, 2011  11:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Bring it, Gripp.Want to go "Old School?"http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/136223-the-lakers-are-the -favorit es-in-the-westpick-a-team-you-think-is-if-you-disagree?category_id=17

Man, that was a while back. LOL, both arguments where horrible.

January 9, 2011  12:10 PM ET

Really DJ? Who is going to disagree?

C'mon man.

January 9, 2011  12:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Man, that was a while back. LOL, both arguments where horrible.

Heeeeey!!!! LOL.

January 9, 2011  12:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Really DJ? Who is going to disagree?C'mon man.

Obviously, a vet....

January 9, 2011  12:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

This is old school. And lol at this guy for thinking JaMarcus was good: http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/5388-brady-quinn-will-not-have-a- more-successful-year-than-jamarcus-russel

In no way can I defend that...

January 9, 2011  12:47 PM ET

I watched him at CAL, wondered why he had so much trouble while with the Bills.
Werent the Jets about to trade for him when they cooled off? Suckers!
Seattle got a steal, but remember its only one game.
Green Bay, Atlanta will not let hawks off so easy.
Go Ducks!

January 9, 2011  12:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I watched him at CAL, wondered why he had so much trouble while with the Bills.Werent the Jets about to trade for him when they cooled off? Suckers!Seattle got a steal, but remember its only one game.Green Bay, Atlanta will not let hawks off so easy.Go Ducks!

Incorrect. Against Atlanta? He averaged 5ypc.

And he had a good game against the Rams in a playoff type game. He kept the chains moving.

January 9, 2011  01:05 PM ET

Get to this tonight, Agrippa.

Peanut Gallery: Please hold off voting until 2 arguments are in.

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January 9, 2011  01:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Really DJ? Who is going to disagree?C'mon man.

agree. another easy win attempt

 
January 9, 2011  01:30 PM ET
QUOTE(#20):

agree. another easy win attempt

But dj doesn't do easy win attempts...

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