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  • 01/16/2011, 01:01PM ET

Which PF would you rather have? Blake Griffin or Kevin Love?

DJRoxalot (1085-669-126) vs Sabih (102-48-19)
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Kevin Love, 21.2ppg, 15.7rpg, 2.5apg, 0.6spg and 0.3bpg while shooting 46.6% on FG's, 44.4% on 3-pointers and 87% on FT's

Blake Griffin, 22ppg, 12.7rpg, 3.4apg, 0.7spg and 0.7bpg while shooting 52% on FG's, 57.1% on 3's and 60% on FT's.

Love is the better all around player while Griffin is the flashier of the 2.

Love is the workman-like meat and potatoes PF that is a muh better rebounder. He averages 3 more rpg.

He is also a more versatile offensive player and deadlier outside shooter.

Griffin has made just 4 of 7 3's while Love has made 59 of 133. Love's consistent outside shot helps create opportunities for other Timberwolve players on offense.

Love also makes his FT's at a higher rate which is critical so opposing teams cannot just foul the big man and put him on the charity stripe.

Disagree???

Throwdown!!!

BRING THE PAIN!!!


As an owner I would rather have Griffin. They are both great players but I will take Griffin.

The biggest reason is $$$$$. Griffin is the one of the most exciting players in the league right now. He brings in crowds.

The Clippers attendance has improved by 3 percent from last year. The Wolves on the other hand have seen there attendance go down by 2 percent.

The second reason is the fact Blake Griffin is a rookie while Love is in his 3rd year.

Griffin is still getting used to the NBA game but is still putting up big numbers. He has shown he can score, finish at the rim (something you need to be able to do as a forward), rebound and pass the ball.

He has not developed an outside game and not as efficient at the FT line but that is something that players improve once they enter the league.

K Love only attempted 19 3PTs in his rookie year and made 2. Griffin has already doubled that.


We are talking about right now.

Love is the better overall player and his ability to make FT's is huge. And that is what ultimately separates the 2 players. That and Love being a better rebounder. Because they basically score the same amount. But Love's versatility is a big plus on his side.

Griffin is a rookie but he had all last year to get used to the nuances of the game. Watching and learning from the bench. Which can absolutely be crucial to a youngsters development. Think of it like a redshirt year in college.

"He has not developed an outside game and not as efficient at the FT line but that is something that players improve once they enter the league."

Love showed in college he could make FT's. He shoots them like he is a guard. As well as his magnificent outside shooting.

Griffin was awful in college (58.9% in 2 years) as a FT shooter. And I do not think he will ever be better than 62-65%.

Griffins offensive game is inside of 8 feet

Love always had an outside game. He made 29 of 82 3-balls in college at UCLA. So he showed ability to make the outside shot.

His first couple years in the NBA he still had a good mid range game.


First of all you did not mention right now. K Love is the more developed player right now since he has gotten used to the NBA game. However, Griffin is putting up numbers as good or better than K Love in most categories.

Although K Love's rebounding total (which is greatly helped by playing for a team without a player averaging more than 6 RPG) is better than Griffin's, Griffin is TOP 5 in the league in RPG.

The fact K Love is not averaging great numbers in BPG shows he is not as big a presence in the post as his RPG numbers would lead you to believe.

The two players have very different gamestyles. Griffin is MUCH better in the transition than K Love. He also takes good shots. His FG% of 52% shows he is just not putting up bad shots. He has better APG, similar TO.

Then there is the entertainment value. Griffin is by far the more exciting player to watch. He has made everyone forget about John Wall. Griffin brings in crowds, gives TV ratings and sells jerseys. K Love, not so much


"However, Griffin is putting up numbers as good or better than K Love in most categories."

Kevin Love, 21.2ppg, 15.7rpg, 2.5apg, 0.6spg and 0.3bpg while shooting 46.6% on FG's, 44.4% on 3-pointers and 87% on FT's

Blake Griffin, 22ppg, 12.7rpg, 3.4apg, 0.7spg and 0.7bpg while shooting 52% on FG's, 57.1% on 3's and 60% on FT's

Griffin barely outscores him. Less than 1 assist more per game. Damn near even in spg and Griffin averages .4 more bpg. Shoots a little better on FG's but Love is a much better outside shooter.

Rebounds? 3 more per game.

And FT's? 87% is eons better than 60.

The FT % is huge because in a close game the opposing team can just intentionally foul Blake and he will most like make 1 of 2.

"Although K Love's rebounding total (which is greatly helped by playing for a team without a player averaging more than 6 RPG) is better than Griffin's"

Think about it. Maybe nobody else averages more than 6rpg because Love is such a beast on the boards? 31 rebounds?

And the 2nd best rebounder on the Clipps? Just 7.2rpg. Hypocrite, much?

And 52% is not that impressive when you consider how close to the basket he plays. He should be shooting 60-65%.


Head to Head

The two guys have had 2 head-to-head meetings this year.

Griffin's numbers are 24 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 4.5 APG, 61.8 fg%
Love's numbers are 18 PPG, 12 RPG, 3.5 APG, 55.5%

Not a large sample size but something to look at.

Griffin barely outscores him.

The guy just went off for 47 today and posted his 33rd double-double in the process.

Griffin may not have an outside but he is an efficient scorer.

Not to mention Griffin is second on his team in scoring (E Gordon is #1). Part of the success of E Gordon can be attributed to the teams focusing more on Blake Griffin.

Rebounding

Since you are obsessed with rebounding here are some facts about Griffin's rebounding.

his rebounding has improved each month this year. From 11.7 in November to 14.5 in January.

His APG have improved. His FT% is 68% in January.

January 16, 2011  01:01 PM ET

Will get to this later but did not want to forget to argue it.

January 16, 2011  01:08 PM ET

Voting is going to be purely subjective........One is more electric, the other is just sooooo damned efficient.

January 16, 2011  01:08 PM ET

Blake Griffin

January 16, 2011  01:14 PM ET

they will be playing each other in 3 days!

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January 16, 2011  01:18 PM ET

Neither. One is white, and the other is half white.

Doesn't sound like they'll be good in the NBA for too long.

January 16, 2011  01:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Neither. One is white, and the other is half white.Doesn't sound like they'll be good in the NBA for too long.

ARE YOU STILL DRUNK?

Drunk + Stupidity = MORON

January 16, 2011  01:22 PM ET

which side are you arguing, DJ?

January 16, 2011  01:33 PM ET

Griffen....but only if you want to win and build a franchise around someone

get Kevin if your only goal is to have a player whose last name rhymes with "dove"

January 16, 2011  01:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Griffen....but only if you want to win and build a franchise around someoneget Kevin if your only goal is to have a player whose last name rhymes with "dove"

arguments can be made for both....but the Clippers ain't winning any more than the Wolves right now.

January 16, 2011  01:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

which side are you arguing, DJ?

Not sure yet.

January 16, 2011  03:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

arguments can be made for both....but the Clippers ain't winning any more than the Wolves right now.

the clips have a lot more talent than the twolves

January 16, 2011  03:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

the clips have a lot more talent than the twolves

They have more but a LOT?

Debatable.

January 16, 2011  03:15 PM ET

Blake

January 16, 2011  03:32 PM ET

Blake is all flash. Love is a workman-like player who plays...I will stop and save it.

January 16, 2011  04:32 PM ET

Both?

January 16, 2011  04:39 PM ET

I'll take Love.

January 16, 2011  05:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Both?

on the same team????

= UNSTOPPABLE

January 16, 2011  05:31 PM ET

Dj: If you're willing, I'll take this.

 
January 16, 2011  06:24 PM ET

Love. But they are completely different players so it's hard to choose. Griffin just has big dunks. Love is more versatile IMO. He can shoot 3's, play down low, pass the ball, and rebound the ball like crazy. Griffins gonna sell more tickets because he's flashy, Love just gets the job done.

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