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TheBowse said 01/21, 03:12 PM
My thoughts here are very straight and to the point. A fan observes and judges professional sports in a much different light than a TV Analyst, Reporter or journalist, Its easy for these prof's to make their case and say what they want. More often than not, we the fans are watching them and we believe all that they say.
Why? What makes their opinon more valid than ours? Do I care why Charles Barkley feels as he said the other day "The CLippers are the Clippers?" No I don't. I feel they are an up and coming team stacked with talent that given a full bill of health right from the get go this season would be right up in the playoffs.
A fan also has the unique ability to have an open mind. usually these professional's are told what to say, and have scripts. You and I...the FANS can say and feel how we want and will make our decisions based on heart and no by what Marv Albert feels like telling us.
Hyped78 said 01/21, 04:23 PM
I understand where you're coming from but cannot agree with you.
Let me start by replying to "A fan also has the unique ability to have an open mind".
Look no further than Fannation itself for proof that many (most?) sports fans are homers and biased, even if will never admit so.
No one wants to buy a sports book written by you or me. That simple.
And while it is very easy to criticize (right or wrong) sports writers, analysts, etc, you still have to respect that it's their job, that their entire life revolves around the sport they cover (in this case we're talking about the NBA).
They spend more time watching games, reading stats, doing interviews, reading articles, getting info, than you or I do. Again: it's their job.
Plus, they get access to information that a regular fan cannot. That provides an insight fans cannot.
There will always be space for blogging by fans.
But that will never, can never replace the articles and opinions of professional sports reporters and analysts.
Even if you disagree with their say or write.
TheBowse said 01/21, 05:13 PM
Since this is my 1st TD ever, I figured id do it with the best!
What you basically said in ur response is that u too are a homer. U say most fans are homers, so ur saying u r? Am i correct?
Fans are loyal to their own teams for a reason. We listen to analysts and journalists because yes as they say it is their jobs. They spend their entire existance trying to find a better way and the most accruate way to report news.
My argument here is not to discredit them and say their wird has no value, but rather to say that as a fan our opinions and thoughts should have more value to how we feel about sports.
One cannot be wrong in their thoughts can they? If Toronto Maple Leaf fans were to listen to sports writers than there would be no fans. Not 1 single championship since 1967. That seems like a good reason not to believe. All the pro's say that they are mismanaged and are lost, yet fans keep selling out the stadium and watching on tv and following.
That's heart my friend, thats the feeling of having an opinion, and no 1 can take that from a fan and most times we listen only b/c its presented in front of us.
News is new and ur opinon is your opinion!
Hyped78 said 01/22, 11:30 AM
"U say most fans are homers, so ur saying u r?"
Of course I am biased. So are you.
Sports fans are biased by nature. Some of them simply don't know it or choose to ignore it.
By the way, here's an example why people prefer reading articles written by professionals: "so ur... u r?"
Well written articles are a must.
It is obvious that every fan has opinions, while some are obviously more knowledgeable than others.
But to get a well-written, well-informed and systematic approach to sports coverage - whatever sport we are talking about - you have to turn to sports reporters.
Even if, many times, we read/ hear what they write/ say and feel strongly opposed to their opinions, most of the times it's just really a case of loving to hate something.
Sports reporters and analysts are professionals and I strongly believe most of them do a great job at covering sports.
Thus a fan's opinion and perspective can never really replace those professionals.
TheBowse said 01/22, 11:28 PM
With all due respect. You are winning this Throwdown, and Ill give you that. Insulting one's grammar when someone writes in shortform because of limitations of characters that can be used is quite ridiculous.
Beating me is also a farce as you have your friends voting for you. Clearly. Look at the dialogue you have with them.
Again, with all respect I write this to you.
The short synopsis of my Throwdown is that we as fans should try not to listen to these professionals so intensely and loosen our eardrums a bit and go with our guts and heart.
The message I speak of is being illustrated here with your buddies who cannot read and go with that they may feel!
Hyped78 said 01/23, 11:37 AM
Wow, what a wonderful third "argument".
First of all I didn't "insult" your grammar. I simply pointed out the obvious.
And secondly, I have been on Fannation for some time now, so it's only natural that I know most of the people who are here on a regular basis.
That's not the reason why they are voting for me. You're not looking at the obvious.
Rest assured that these voters have both voted for me and against me on several occasions.
With that out of the way, let's return to the issue at hand.
Sports fans will never replace professionals who write about the sport.
Professionals have access to information most people don't.
They dedicate their lives to covering sports, they dedicate more hours to read and watch, than any of us could.
They are also, on average, better writers than fans.
And that's it.
If you had any more substance to your 3rd argument, I would have done the same here.
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Hyped78
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Jolly!
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Hyped!
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And stuff
Good to see you're still fightin' the good fight.
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Mr. Jolly
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heh in 1 arg Hyped killed Bowse...
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Haven't TDed much as of late, but got this challenge and accepted.
How's everything?
Hyped78
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Hyped smash! :)
Hyped78
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Everything is good.
I've found my way back to regular participation, which is always a good thing.
Hope it's going well on your end of the pond.
Mr. Jolly
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It is. Just about to move from Lisbon to Madrid, in April. Like Roni says, should be a good move.
Hyped78
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Is there a huge difference between Portugal and Spain?
I assume there are some differences, being two different countries, but will it be a huge culture shift?
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or "your" to "ur"
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Well, not too much, I guess.
Madrid is 50 minutes away from Lisbon, by plane; 5 hours by car.
The language is obviously different but Portuguese and Spanish are similar enough.
The cultural differences are, I would say, in the food (they love ham, paella, stuff like that) and also in the working schedules (they have a late lunch and then siesta after that!).
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