- 01/23/2011, 11:38AM ET
J-Business said 01/23, 11:38 AM
I like the idea.
Toronto has a long history of sports and they have a team in each of the other 3 major American sports.
Toronto is the 7th largest city in North America, so they have the population to support a team.
From a marketing standpoint, this would be the only Canadian team in the NFL, so they would enjoy widespread support across the country.
They would also have a lock on the Canadian TV audience
Toronto also hosts a college bowl game (International Bowl), so this is shows there is interest in football.
Canada's economy is doing better than the United States - Financial
The mayor of Toronto has voiced support for a Canadian team - Politics
Toronto has a storied CFL team and regularly hosts Buffalo Bills games. In fact it's estimated that 15% of the fans from Bills home games come from the Toronto area - Fan Base
Canada is much safer than any major American city - Quality of life
Football could potentially become the 2nd or 3rd favorite sport in the city.
Football is a cold weather sport. Having football in Canada actually makes more sense than basketball and baseball.
It makes sense in all the important points
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/23, 12:30 PM
1. Canada's first passion is hockey. We'd be the mistress, but never the wife.
2. This is AMERICA and I care a whole lot more about helping US
We have a HUGE city in Los Angeles that deserves a team before Canada.
3. Football is a cold weather sport? Then why do some colleges in the north have smaller football stadiums than HIGH SCHOOLS in the south?
Canada is something like 9 million square miles...and only has 33 million people
Los Angeles has 3.8 million in just the city...10 million in LA County
And California has 37 million people. I think its more likely someone will drive from Sacramento or San Jose to LA to see a game than from the Yukon territory to Toronto.
and unlike canada....Californians L_O_V_E their football as evidenced by strong support for college & pros
5. now...to be clear, this is about MOVING a team....not creating a new franchise
The NFL doesnt need to add more teams. the talent pool is so low right now that we have numerous teams with very poor QBs and has been/never were running backs.
6. BUFFALO can use Toronto
its a short drive. Buffalo can partner w/ Toronto and get the best of both worlds
J-Business said 01/23, 02:37 PM
As far as your points
1. That is a pointless issue. If it was that big of a deal with fans and sports than UCLA would drop their football program and USC would drop their basketball. The fact that they have the CFL, NBA, MLB and a soccer team disproves your point.
2. LA has already had and lost two NFL teams. Why do they "deserve" another?
3. The football season is Sept-Jan
4. Toronto is one of the biggest cities in N. America. Also they would be the only NFL team based in Canada. Fans wouldn't drive to the game, they'd watch it on tv. A Toronto team would automatically have the largest ratings share in Canada.
5. Once the door is officially open, struggling franchises will be lining up.
6. Why would Toronto want to partner with a much smaller city, when they can have their own. It's more likely for the Bills to want to make the full jump to Toronto and beat other franchises to the punch.
As the largest economy in Canada, a franchise would get big corporate money, a large media market and more exposure than smaller American market teams.
A team in Toronto works for the franchise, fans and the NFL
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/23, 02:57 PM
1. ucla getting rid of basketball?, lol
in AMERICA...football is king.in CANADA...hockey is king
football has a better shot at thriving in AMERICA...esp. the 2nd lgst American city
2. you are looking at it wrong
LA is such a strong market that it can lose 2 franchises and STILL have demand for a 3rd
Other cities were able to steal away a franchise bc they could offer to build brand new stadiums & tax breaks
LA is much more capable of sustaining an nfl team.
3. that still doesnt help YOUR idea that football is a cold weather sport
every gone thru 2-a-days in texas? There is a reason HEAT STROKE kills more football players than frostbite
4. having the lgst ratings in canada is like being the tallest midget
I GUARENTEE YOU that the STATE of CA would have more viewers than all of Canada!
5. how many franchises are begging to go to O'Canada? EXACTlY
6. Then why does Toronto have the 4th lowest MLB attendance for 2010?
If it is soooooo big shouldnt there be enough fans to support the team?
Why isnt a Blue Jays player in the top 10 jersey sales? YOU IMPLY that the whole country would support a Canadian team.
your theory doesnt hold canadian water
J-Business said 01/23, 04:21 PM
Let me make this clear. This isn't about LA vs Toronto.
The point of the TD is that Toronto would be a good destination for an NFL franchise.
And yes it is quite possible that LA may also get a franchise.
Let's stick to the topic. I won't mention LA if you won't
Toronto is a great city for sports and has every major sports franchise in the city, with the exception of the NFL.
They have the pop., history, economy and culture to support an NFL franchise
Franchises such as Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis and Buffalo will definitely consider moving to Toronto when the opportunity presents itself.
Toronto as a city has a long sports history and the NFL would be a natural fit. The weather is actually better than places like Green Bay and Minnesota and the city is safer, livelier and more modern than half of the cities in the NFL.
Football is currently a very popular sport and a team owner will take advantage of this opportunity, particularly since they are already are paying the Buffalo Bills to play some of their home games in Toronto.
An NFL franchise will be one of the most popular sports draws in Toronto
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/23, 04:25 PM
and in terms of size of the area:
LA county has 10,000,000
that is 1/3 of the entire population of the COUNTRY of Canada
and i would bet the farm that a MUCH MUCH MUCH higher % of LA county residents are football fans than the % of fans you'd find in toronto
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