- 01/26/2011, 12:36PM ET
YankeeSteel said 01/26, 12:36 PM
I think the NFL should name the PRO BOWL players for the year.....then invite them all to Hawaii for a skills competion......they would play for something too , make it interesting, each player would pick a charity and all winnings goes to that.
Having a game is totally ridicuolous , its not how football is played , and not a sport you play halfway , viewing this and the players playing this game mocks both the fan and the player.
Show me: Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rivers , Brees, Rodgers, Ryan, Vick in a comp .... throwing at moving targets and all kind of cool stuff, also lets see what they think of each other and lets hear them rip on each other, Defense, lets see who's the fastest DB , lets see what DT can rip through barriers the quickest......im sure they can make some great props these days, we've come a long way from those 80's comps lol....
TD if you like the Pro Bowl game...please lol
Ron_Burgundy said 01/26, 01:25 PM
I admit your suggestion has some merit, the Probowl seems to always have issues surrounding it. But it seems like most of the complaints come from the players themselves. Yes, it's a physical sport and saftey is always an issue, but what we are talking about is an exhibition amongst the best players available.
What you are suggesting is a skills competition, but what would a DB do? Foot races? How about a WR? Would they race as well? Would LBs and Safties have a tackling competition?
You see baseball players trying to get out of the All-Star game and I know plenty of basketball players skip plenty of the festivities during their competition as well. The fact is that it's another time commitment for the best players in any sport and it's annoying. Teams always want to protect their investments, so they are not in favor of these contests.
People get hurt in basketball (Shaun Livingston, Andrew Bynum, or Greg Oden. Same in baseball (Kirby Puckett, Stephen Strasburg) and hockey (Ericd Lindros, Sidney Crosby, or Marc Savard). Football schedules their enhibition after the sean which is more than the other premier sports do. It's just an exhibition.
YankeeSteel said 01/26, 04:11 PM
Your saying you rather see a Pro Bowl game than a skills comp? It would be better for everyone, the fans and the players , and not only that the Network that broadcasts it...theres plenty of different events they can have.
MLB has the homerun derby , NHL has a skills comp , NBA has the slam dunk contest , and all have All Star Games with it....the only difference is that those sports All Star games have some juice to them , mainly because as player they can do some individual things that excite the fans and the game....football is a team running machine, its about field position and blocking and tackling ...cmon man this a no-brainer
I remember back in the 80's I couldnt wait until this comp came on, Id watch Marcus Allen run against Hershel Walker through cones and over walls , Id watch Marino hit a target moving fast 40 yards away on a bullseye and then they show Elway laughing saying wait till I go pal ...Its just better for them and us...
Baseball did a great thing with the All Star game having something to play for , home field advantage in the World Series, the NBA doesnt need to do that because its more and individual sport for fast breaks and dunks , NHL the same
Ron_Burgundy said 01/27, 11:22 AM
A skills competition isn't the best option for the NFL because of the defined nature of the positions that people play. Sure, everyone would love to watch the QBs duke it out, but that's about it. Would we really be glued to our screens to watch a kicking competition between two kickers? What would we do about the punters?
I think the NBA is a fair comparison with their skills contests. But even their competitions don't cover the full spectrum of players. How do you have a rebounding contest? The lock down defenders don't get a chance to show their skills either. They build their various competitions around an entire weekend.
The NFL has had other activities in the past that have failed. Just ask Robert Edwards about his pro bowl weekend.
As for players not showing up or grousing about having to partake in the festivities just look to one of the most competetitive NBA players of all time. Michael Jordan used to skip half the weekend and take the fine.
The biggest concern for the game is the injuries and if you to add a novelty to the game, then make it flag football. Tweak the rules, but leave the game.
Ron_Burgundy said 01/28, 02:11 PM
There is nothing you can do that is going to change the atmosphere surrounding the game. You can't have it before the season starts and during the season leaves teams scrambing if anyone gets hurt. The probowl before the Superbowl at least fills in the weekend between and more importantly allows players to get some recognition.
There is already a list for the best of the best. It known as being All-pro, but the Pro Bowl allows us to see the best players doing what they do best. Linemen block, kickers kick, and WRs catch.
My opponent NEVER touched base on any other events besides races and a QB competition. What do we do with every other position? How do we celebrate their seasons?
We take the good with the bad in sports. All sports. There are plenty of great players who will never be considered the best at their position and seem to get overlooked all of them time. Jerome Bettis, Curtis Martin, Fred Taylor, Phil Simms, or even Ben Roethlisberger.
Without the probowl how many All-pros do you think they have amongst them?
No matter what is chosen it's still an exhibition. Nothing will change that, but it's an opprtunity to see the best play each other.
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