- 01/28/2011, 11:04AM ET
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/28, 11:04 AM
SDSU....you are not an elite school. you are not a final destination.
you have earned enough respect you will start getting more guys like Hoke. up&comers who will work 80hrs a week to prove themselves
yes, that will be some turnover in the coaching office....but it is the best you are going to get unless you become a periennial power and make a home in the top 25
Hoke said from the beginning that his dream job was Michigan. Obviously he got there faster than anyone expected...mainly bc Michigan's #1 choice turned them down
most of your coaches will stay longer.
so go get that assistant from florida or texas or notre dame who is ready for teh head job. you'll keep him til something opens up at his dream job.
in fact, SELL it to him like that.
win enough & SDSU might just become someone's dream spot to land
BigBlueWreckingCrewIII said 01/28, 12:37 PM
Your arrogance is surpassed only by your Alabama blind homerism.
First of all: Of course they should be upset if their coach, who is starting to experience great success, leaves. Any team, regardless of division, ranking or pedigree should be upset by this.
As you know, college sports (particularly basketball and football) gain recruits based upon the team, coach, playing time and past performance; just to name a few. Furthermore, a successful coach leaving, negatively affects the current players on the roster. Some might leave early or even transfer. So yes, SDSU fans have every right to be upset.
Now, had you said surprised, that would be a totally different story. While they have every right to be upset, the can not be surprised.
There was a time when even the heralded coach of Duke was rumored to have other enticing offers. Now we know he did not leave for the NBA, but was this ever a 100% guarantee? No. While you and I would probably agree that he would be crazy to leave, crazier things have happened.
No team is immune to this. Even SEC teams are also subject to the coaching carousel, yes even SEC Football teams.
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/28, 02:37 PM
1. not even my arrogance surpasses my homerism for Bama
2. Did Urban Meyer leaving Utah for Florida destory the Utah program?
Recruits know the business of sports. they know they too will have opportunities and may leave a college early or be traded in the pros
Recruts want OPPORTUNITY for EXPOSURE
3. You seem to think that SDSU will attract a Nick Saban or a Jim Tressell
aint gonna happen.
They might catch a Rich Rodriguez type on the way DOWN the latter.....but that shouldnt be there goal
They are not a "destination school". BUT
they are a stepping stone to the highest level.
Few people will go from a "Morehouse State" to a top program
But SDSU is in a position where they will get top coaches. They might not stay forever like the Boise guy...but its better than taking leftovers from USC
4. Yes, even SEC teams see turnover.
In fact Florida was able to attract the guy who was coach-in -waiting at TEXAS
and one of their new coordinators was a former ND head coach...who left a playoff NFL team to go be an assistant.
SDSU is in a good spot. Let them build up and maybe they'll become a top 10 power in a decade or so
BigBlueWreckingCrewIII said 01/28, 03:24 PM
Ok, as for your "1"... that is exactly what I said, so you agree with me on that. Good.
What has point number "2" have to do with anything? I never said anything about a coach leaving and destroying a program. I was illustrating why the a coach that is leaving will certainly hurt a program in the short term, which is why they should be upset.
As for number 3. You are changing the TD to be about good programs vs smaller programs. All I said, was all teams can lose a coach to another school and the fans have all the right in the world to be upset.
Your last sentence is very peculiar and has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Anyway, you made a comment below that seals my whole argument, thanks for helping.
When Hoke was hired at SDSU, he informed school officials that Michigan was his dream job. He coached the Wolverines' defensive line for eight seasons before becoming a head coach at Ball State University-- http://www.10news.com/news/26454114/detail.html
Game, set match. The not only should not be upset about this move, they can not even be surprised, which is what the TD is about.
Bear likes this DEFENSE said 01/28, 05:01 PM
ok...in your last sentence of your 2nd argument you agree with my premise for the TD
do you understand that when you take a TD you argue the OPPOSITE of me?
I SAID they shouldnt be upset he left.
hence, when you take the TD you should argue the opposite of that.....
which you did when you said
All I said, was all teams can lose a coach to another school and the fans have all the right in the world to be upset.
pick a side dude......
this is about recognizing the reality of your situation.
ncaa isnt like the nfl where all teams have a salary cap and can enjoy much closer parity from top to bottom
in the ncaa there are different levels of programs
sdsu is not a top tier program and they shouldnt be mad when a coach comes to them...wins....then leaves for a top program
in fact, it is BETTER for sdsu to catch these coaches on the way UP rather than on the way DOWN
Hoke was up front (which i said) and told them Michigan was his dream job.
Hence, like I said, the fans shouldnt be upset.
strike 3....you're out
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