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Big Ben vs. Aaron Rodgers
Feel The Noise said 01/29, 10:29 AM
These two are going to square off in the Super bowl but which one would you rather have under center? I'll go with Ben Roethlisberger. I know everybody is high on Aaron Rodgers because he can put up big numbers and recently because of his playoff dismantling of the Atlanta Falcons. I have a good reason as to why that may be, look at the receivers he is playing with. I'm not trying to say he's not talented himself but it definitely helps him that his core of receivers is among the best in the league.
If you examine their career starts, including the playoffs head to head...
Big Ben is 82-32.
Aaron is 30-22.
So unless Aaron Rodgers can go 52-10 over his next 62 starts which i guess is in the outside realm of possibility but probably won't happen, Ben would still have a better record.
I don't care what other statistics you want to measure. At the end of the day, quarterbacks are judged by their ability to win football games for their team. And there aren't too many other quarterbacks who are better at that than Ben Roethlisberger.
Ben has 3 rings to his name, until Aaron Rodgers at least has 1, I don't think it's a conversation.
GL to whoever takes this!
DJRoxalot said 01/29, 11:16 AM
I agree with you to a certain extent. QB's are judged based on wins, especially when it comes to rings.
But let me present to you (calm down Peanut Gallery, it is not Trent Dilfer):
A player that went 72-53 in the regular season.
4-3 in the postseason, includng a Super Bowl win.
Johnson has comparable numbers as far as winning games. If Rodgers never wins a SB would that in fact mean Johnson was a better player??? No, it means he was in the right place at the right time.
Is Big Ben better than Dan Marino??? Hell naw.
Big Ben is a very good player and he might be in the Elite class but he is most definitely not better than Aaron. Rodgers had no running game against the Falcons but still put on his Superman cape and posted these numbers:
31 of 36 for 366 yards, 10.2ypa, 3 TD's with a 136.8 Passer Rating. Not to mention 2 carries for 13 yards a TD.
And if you want to go even a step further? For this postseason Rodgers is completing 71% of his passes for 263ypg, 8.5ypa, 6 TD's to 2 INT's with a 109.8 Rating
Ben? Way down that list. 56.9%, 180ypa, 7.0ypa, 2 TD's to 2 INT's with a 75.5 Rating
Welcome to the Nation and BRING THE PAIN!
Feel The Noise said 01/30, 12:10 PM
Forfeited Turn
DJRoxalot said 01/30, 04:16 PM
Cake and Boobies!!!!!!!
*Not a forfeited turn*
Feel The Noise said 01/31, 05:10 PM
Forfeited Turn
DJRoxalot said 01/31, 09:56 PM
Rodgers is a better QB and will prove it Sunday. I mean come on, the Packers are so good that they nearly upset the Pats....With their backup QB.
The Pats destroyed the Steelers D, 39-26. Rodgers will be able to dissect the Pitt D like Brady did. Rodgers is (GASP) right up there with Brady and Manning as an Elite QB
30 of 43 for 350 yards, 8.5ypa, 3 TD's, 117.4 Rating.
The scary thing? Is Rodgers has more offensive firepower. I hate to beat a dead horse (PETA might come for me) but Rodgers destroyed a good Falcons defense.
The Packers D is so good they blanked the Jets, 9-0. The Steelers almost let the Jets come back and win the game.
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Your logic is quite flawed, but I'm not in the mood to TD today
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I'm glad Ben won all of those games by himself. Wins and losses is a bad way to judge a QB. How did the Steelers do without Ben in the first four games of the season?
williewilliejuan
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Honest mistake putting 3 Super bowl titles for Ben...he won't have 3 till next sunday.
Feel The Noise
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Yeah, same goes for how GB lost 10 games Rodgers first season as a starter. He made them lose 10 times! Wonder they stuck with him after losing 10 games by himself.
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Interesting TD. Can we all just start saying junk and stuff here?
OH, SNAP!
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Who is Feel the Noise?
DJRoxalot
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I'd say Kevin Dubrow, but he's dead.
williewilliejuan
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BRAD Johnson, good lord. What a night....
DJRoxalot
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Without Ben the entire season, WWJ? 12-4?
Highly doubtful....8-8, maybe 9-7.
DJRoxalot
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I don't know. Without him, they won at a 75% clip; with him they won at a 75% clip. I'm not taking anything away from Ben, but the Steelers are a lot more than just their QB.
williewilliejuan
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I agree to an extent but a full season with Batch/Dixon would show Ben is no longer just a game manager. He has won them some games....
DJRoxalot
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I agree. Without Ben, I think the Steelers would be the Ravens.
williewilliejuan
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Ha, Zing on Joe Flacco.
DJRoxalot
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Aaron Rodgers and Big Ben are both winners. Rodgers has the edge in pure passing abilities and arm strength. Heard an interview where both commented on eachother in separate press conferences, Rodgers himself even said his game was so similar to that of Big Bens that the only thing he said was different between the two was that he was "slimmer". Roethisberger has more rings because in the past 5 years the Steelers have had a better Defence, more efficient and healthier running game and (when Holmes was still there) a better recieving core.
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Pickles, that has the stench of a dupe.
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First two games...2-0 ...zero offensive TD's....you can only win so many games with no TD's from the offense.
MattUSA
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Maybe you mean passing.... Mendenhall had a 50 yard TD run in OT against Atlanta week 1
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Marino wasn't very good in the playoffs. He was more of a regular season performer.
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