- 03/01/2011, 09:22PM ET
Confucius. Trout said 03/01, 09:22 PM
I know I'm going for the easy win here, but I don't care.
Derek Fisher is the best PG in the NBA.
Some say his stats aren't good enough, but here's the deal, numbers are for terrorists and virgins, not sports. So unless you're a terrorist virgin (Rude), you shouldn't care about stats.
Fisher does things that don't show up in the stat sheet. He inspires his team to greatness. Can you imagine what Shaq and Kobe/Kobe and Pau would've done without Fisher? I doubt they would've won any titles.
Fishers intangibles are through the roof, the only pro-athlete with better intangibles that I can think of is Trent Dilfer.
He's clutch too, the most important trait in a pro-athlete.
Derek Fisher, far and away is #1.
Jason Kidd is a Yankee Fan! said 03/02, 01:48 AM
ehh..you have made some good points, but I'd have to respectively disagree. The best PG in the game is, however, on the same team as Fisher. The best PG is no other than Pau Gasol. He's currently averaging 18.7/10.4 on good efficiency. He's also a good, tough defender in the post.
Fisher vs Gasol
You want points? 6.7 vs 18.7 Pau wins.
You want rebounds? 1.9 vs 10.4 Pau wins.
HECK, you want assists? 2.7 vs 3.5 Pau wins.
I could go on but that would be stupid. The obvious answer is obvious. PG > DF
Confucius. Trout said 03/02, 01:07 PM
STATS ARE IRRELEVANT!!!
Pau Gasol has no intangibles. He's a big European softy, not a tough as nails competitor like Derek Fisher. Plus he looks like a Llama, do you want your team to look to someone for inspiration and instead see a farm animal? DO YOU!?
You can give me all those virgin numbers all day, but they don't mean squat at the end of the day because Basketball isn't played with a calculator or the Asian kid who sat next to me in Math class. It's played with heart, determination, and an orange round bouncy ball.
Without Fisher and his clutch jeans, the Lakers would be irrelevant. For some reason people like to Give Kobe all the credit for being clutch, but people don't seem to realize that the only reason Kobe gets open for those shots is because teams dedicate 3 players to Derek Fisher in every clutch moment.
THAT'S HOW SCARED OPPONENTS ARE OF FISHER!!!
Pau Gasol shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as the great Derek Fisher, he shouldn't even be allowed to make eye contact!!!
Jason Kidd is a Yankee Fan! said 03/02, 04:12 PM
Hmm..you say Gasol looks like a farm animal? NICE, he could also be a great mascot! That's an intangible in itself!
You talk about Fisher and his clutch jeans? Well, he doesn't wear jeans on the court, so what do you mean by that? /:
What do you mean teams dedicated 3 players to Fisher? The last time Fisher was even double-teamed was back in elementary school. He doesn't even know how to dribble a basketball! All he does is shoot..if you can even call it shooting.
While I agree Gasol shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Fisher, it's for the opposite reasons you think. Pau is a beast, he's a dog, he's a **** problem. OK, you're a goon but what's a goon to a goblin?
In the end, this comparison shouldn't even be a comparison. It should be something else because it isn't a comparison..it's something else.
Confucius. Trout said 03/02, 11:35 PM
So now you're calling me a liar?
I'm going to take the high road and keep this a civil debate.
You think looking like a mascot is a good thing? Since when? Mascots are stupid and irrelevant. The only thing they're good for is to give jobs to pathetic losers who likely have criminal records.
So not only does he look like a Llama, he's a loser with a criminal record. No one's going to respect a Llama that's done time.
"Well, he doesn't wear jeans on the court, so what do you mean by that?"
They're cut-offs and he wears them under his shorts, duh! Jeez, it doesn't take a genius to figure stuff like this out.
Pau Gasol isn't clutch and can't shoot 3's, that's all that matters for PG's. Not these numbers that you keep throwing out.
If it weren't for Fisher no one would even know Gasol's name.
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