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  • 03/02/2011, 11:06AM ET

Prove me wrong. We all know you can't.

Rudedog: Believe The Hype (370-317-81) vs OlderthanDirt (88-37-13)
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The basis of this TD is somewhat difficult to explain. Basically, I want to argue that high school basketball is better than any high school sport in any state. My opponent will pick a different high school sport in a different state.

I, as I said, will be arguing for Indiana high school basketball.

Let me give you some examples...

Last night, following my last class, my teacher asked me, my roommate, and one other student if we wanted to go with him to a sectional (similar to district round of playoffs, first round) game at a gym about an hour and a half away. The gym is the 4th largest in the nation and I hadn't been, so I said yes.

Long story short, we ended up at the gym where, despite none of the teams truly having much of a shot at the state title, the 8110 seat gym was roughly 75% full. The atmosphere was electric and it always is for tournament play in Indiana. On a random Tuesday night last night, 7000 people came to this gym to watch their team play. Find me something that is more popular and better than that. Attending an Indiana high school game is something that should be on people's bucket lists


OK.. Heater got busy and gave it up to me. Thanks Heat.
OK,
I am pretty sure reading all the comments below I understand the TD.
I am also going to go with the initial thoughts that both Heater and I had when we first saw the TD.
TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL

This sport is more than just an event, it is a way of life in Texas. Film makers and TV producers alike have tried many times to capture the essence of this phenomenon known as "Friday Night Lights". It runs rampant across the entire state. It has brought us so many memorable scenes like Ali Larter wearing nothing but a whipped cream bikini. How can you top that? with a cherry!

But really, as to the actual real life sport, check this out: Allen high school began an 18,000 seat stadium to the tune of $60 million dollars that is scheduled to open in 2012. Their current stadium only holds a mere 7000 seats so the school brings in 7000 more temporary seats EACH GAME. And this is only one school!

The current committed class for the 2011 college season boasts almost 200 seniors to Div 1 colleges all from Texas; and this is only from the 5A schools. That does not include the rest of the high schools.

MMTC. GL


High school basketball in Indiana isn't a way of life?

Check this. Here's a link I want everyone to click

http://tinyurl.com/kof3jk

It's the top 15 high school gymnasiums in the nation. For those too lazy to click, Indiana has 14 of the top 15 (side note: I've been to 3 of the top 5).

It's just as much a way of life in Indiana as it is in Texas, it's just not as publicized. Our town has a population of roughly 12,000 people and our high school gym holds 5,700.



The greatest sports movie ever made, Hoosiers, was about Indiana basketball. On Friday and Saturday nights in Indiana during the winter, entire towns shut down for basketball games. I realize the same is done in Texas, but on consecutive nights, Indiana towns do this. Hell, on a random Tuesday night, towns will shut down.

You bring up rankings. The 2011 class has 4 in the top 150. The 2012 class has 11 of the top 150.

Basically, anything you can do, I can do better. Indiana high school basketball may not get the cinematic publicity of Texas high school football, but that doesn't make it any worse


So, in your own words, Indianna HS BB is not as publicized as Texas Football. Why is that? Simple, it is not as big a deal, thats why


hope that works

Remember this is high school. This is Southlake Carroll and Allen High School in the 5A championship. Anyone recognize the stadium? How many seats are in that place!

Football in Texas is so huge that the Coaches make over six figures a year, just to coach. No other teaching duties, for the larger schools and programs. No PTAs. None of the usual outside interference most teachers have. I checked, the Indianna HS Basketball Coaches get paid a Stipend to supplement their teaching salaries and the most any of them get is around 12K a year. That is a pitance compared to what Texas does for their HS Football Coaches.

HS Football in Texas is talked about, planned for, strategized, predicted, recruited year round; not just during football season. An open day loss for some schools ruins their entire year. Those schools are so competitive and the competition is so stiff they are like Div 1 colleges, one loss and you are probably not going to play for a championship


You didn't prove me wrong, I just didn't make enough dupes...

I'll be back for more

Congrats on the win

March 2, 2011  11:08 AM ET

Texas football.....will get to it in the next couple hours

March 2, 2011  11:09 AM ET

Damn Heater, I hit accept after reading. You must have hit accept and then read it.... LOL

There is definitely one sport in one state that tops that

March 2, 2011  11:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Texas football.....will get to it in the next couple hours

It's what I expected. Take your time

March 2, 2011  11:09 AM ET

****! you even beat me to the state and sport....

March 2, 2011  11:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

It's what I expected. Take your time

I will....also FYI, I grew up in Kokomo, IN

March 2, 2011  11:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I will....also FYI, I grew up in Kokomo, IN

Really? I grew up in Connersville, IN. Not too far

March 2, 2011  11:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

****! you even beat me to the state and sport....

Lol, I accepted as soon as I saw it wasn't Texas football

March 2, 2011  11:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Really? I grew up in Connersville, IN. Not too far

Yep, moved to Columbus in 94'....still have family in Kokomo, Peru, and Ft. Wayne

March 2, 2011  11:16 AM ET

Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I want to take ya
To Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go
Ooh I want to take you
Down to Kokomo

It always seemed out of place in the song.

March 2, 2011  11:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I want to take yaTo Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mamaKey Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we go Ooh I want to take youDown to KokomoIt always seemed out of place in the song.

Kokomo beach is much nicer than Kokomo, IN and it's 15-20% unemployment rate.

March 2, 2011  11:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Texas football.....will get to it in the next couple hours

Yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind when Rude mentioned attendance.

March 2, 2011  12:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Texas football.....will get to it in the next couple hours

that was my first thought....it is religion down there.

March 2, 2011  12:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I will....also FYI, I grew up in Kokomo, IN

is that what the Beach Boys were referring to?

March 2, 2011  12:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I want to take yaTo Bermuda, Bahama, come on, pretty mamaKey Largo, Montego, baby, why don't we goOoh I want to take youDown to KokomoIt always seemed out of place in the song.

lol

March 2, 2011  12:16 PM ET

My high school...

(fast forward to 1:15 for the best part)

March 2, 2011  12:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Kokomo beach is much nicer than Kokomo, IN and it's 15-20% unemployment rate.

At least theres a Chipotle in Kokomo.

March 2, 2011  12:45 PM ET

I think Iowa has a beast of a high school wrestling program.

March 2, 2011  02:19 PM ET

Football in Texas...

March 2, 2011  02:21 PM ET

Damn, Rude!!! That was craaaaaazzzzzyyyy!!!

 
March 2, 2011  02:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

My high school...(fast forward to 1:15 for the best part)

RACIST!

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