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  • 03/25/2011, 07:14PM ET

The wnba season should be the same length as the NBA season.

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I'm gonna start off by saying that a bunch of guys will say that the wnba is not worthy, not good enough and make negative comments like that. Please don't bring your negativity on this thread. I don't understand why the wnba season is so short? How come it is half of the mens season? How come there are large gaps between games?i dont understand why the season is so much shorter. I believe this is sexist and is a way of saying that men are in better shape than girls. Yes men are physically stronger than girls and we just need to deal with that but just because men are stronger and taller does that make them better athletes or in better shape? NO! although the pace of the NBA game us faster than the wnba and individual stats are higher women can play just ad well or better than men. Over the last 100 years women have broken down tons of gender barriers. This had always disappointed me and feels like a setback. This clarifies the stereotype boys are better at sports than girls which isn't true!!!!


I'm going to be honest with you - I know nothing about the WNBA. I don't know any teams, I don't know a single player, I've never seen a game on TV.

I also couldn't find the data I wanted on the internet, so my argument is based on speculation.


My guess as to why the WNBA season is shorter is for financial reasons.

It costs a lot to transport a team, pay for hotels, meals, arena expenses, etc. and the league doesn't have enough revenue to pay for a longer season.

If the demand was there, I'm sure they would play more games. But there isn't enough money from tickets, TV, and sponsorship for it to make financial sense.

It has nothing to do with female athletes being able to handle a longer season - I have no doubt that they can. And it has nothing to do with 'keeping the woman down' by proving male athletes are better.

I'm not going to bother arguing about stuff like why men are better athletes or why men's sports are more popular, etc...

The reality is way more people pay money to watch NBA than WNBA.

That accounts for the difference in number of games.


Why would you pay less money to see the best womens basketball players on earth than the mens? I can't deny that the womens game is less popular than the mens and attendance is lower but... If the wnba wants to generate more revenue they need to raise ticket prices and then with added revenue they would have more money to extended the season, advertise and promote the league. Even though average attendance last year was 7,234 per game and it's not even half of a capacity crowd if they raised ticket prices to the NBA ticket prices that could be an additional 5 or 7 thousand dollars per game. If the ticket prices went up they would have more money to make the season longer, higher salary cap and more advertising.if they did that they would have the financial backing for a longer season.


"Why would you pay less money to see the best womens basketball players on earth than the mens?"

I wouldn't pay money to see either. I watch the NBA playoffs on TV, that's it.

If you're asking why society in general pays more attention to men's sports than women's, (specifically for basketball) my answer would be: because the talent level is higher, it's more competitive, there's more at stake, and people find it more exciting.



As for raising ticket prices in the WNBA:


Only if there's an overwhelming demand for tickets is it a good idea to increase the price.


Increasing the prices for a luke-warm event will likely decrease the amount of tickets sold.


Who knows, it's worth a try I guess. But that's beside the point.



I thought the original argument was: why is the WNBA season shorter than the NBA.

I said the reason is due to financial restrictions.


I'm sure there are plenty of things the WNBA could do to increase revenue and make the sport more popular. I'm not disagreeing with that.

I disagree that the WNBA season is shorter because of sexism.

March 25, 2011  07:49 PM ET

Too many periods....

March 25, 2011  08:07 PM ET

Hahahaha nice

March 25, 2011  08:08 PM ET

Give me 3 examples where a woman is better at sports then men and MAYBE I would even think about voting for you.

March 25, 2011  08:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Give me 3 examples where a woman is better at sports then men and MAYBE I would even think about voting for you.

Skill level is irrelevant here to me. What matters in gender equality and fairness.

March 25, 2011  08:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Give me 3 examples where a woman is better at sports then men and MAYBE I would even think about voting for you.

When Candace Parker won rookie of the year and MVP in the same season she became the 7th person in all of pro sports and first female to win both those honors in the same season. The others ? Wilt chamberlain, wes unseld, ichiro Suzuki, Jim brown and Fred lynn. Impressive.

March 26, 2011  01:39 AM ET

Sadly, until they play in booty shorts & tight tops, no one outside of the players' family & ****--bos will watch the WNBA. They've got a lot of talent & some fine looking women, but if people won't go see 40+ games, ain't no way they'll watch 82...

March 26, 2011  01:40 AM ET

You have a better chance @ getting women to play 5 set tennis matches...

March 26, 2011  02:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Give me 3 examples where a woman is better at sports then men and MAYBE I would even think about voting for you.

Synchronized swimming

Pocket pool

Rhythmic gymnastics

March 26, 2011  10:33 AM ET

What the hell's the WNBA?

March 26, 2011  12:19 PM ET

How come there are large gaps between games?




Because NO ONE CARES. There are empty seats, even when the clubs try to give them away. You want to talk about why the NBA is losing money? This is one example. They are financing the WNBA! It is COSTING the owners money to keep this afloat! Leave Title IX for colleges and high schools.

March 26, 2011  12:33 PM ET

Most WNBA players go play on teams in Europe or Russia during the off-season, so it's not like they can't handle extra games. Its purely financial, don't most NBA teams own the WNBA equivalent? I have a heard time seeing that the WNBA is profitable...

March 26, 2011  12:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Skill level is irrelevant here to me. What matters in gender equality and fairness.

No. What matters is the dollar. The WNBA does not make nearly as much money as the NBA.

If you want a longer season, get a group together and go to more games. Its simple 7th grade economics. Supply and Demand. If theres less demand, theres no reason for a longer season

March 26, 2011  02:25 PM ET

The WNBA losses money.

It is kept afloat by supplemental funds from the NBA (which now finds itself in the red). In most cities, the season ticket sales for the NBA franchise are tied to the mandatory purchase of WNBA tickets. The size of the compliance costs to operate an WNBA team (which are supplemented as well by the city's NBA franchise) make it a financial impossible for shorter layoff and more games.

Look at the college game where gender equality and fairness due to legislation, reign supreme. Men's basketball provides the major funding for all sports at FCS schools. It is quite common for these programs to show profits - enough profit to support the school's entire arcade of men and women's sports.

There are over 340 Division I women's basketball teams and less than 3% generate enough revenue to show a profit. In over 97% of these schools, the entire manifold of women's sports do not financially support themselves and would have been dropped (due to financial considerations) years ago if not for Title IX legislation. Without such a federal mandate on the professional level, how would creating a pro league alter this reality?

The NBA works (barely!) because it houses the best basketball players in the world. The WNBA has no such claim, nor ever will. The harsh reality is that women's basketball (collegiate and professional) is not financially supported by the American sports dollar.

March 26, 2011  02:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Skill level is irrelevant here to me. What matters in gender equality and fairness.

In other aspects of life, I agree,but it's hard to give female athletes the same equality in athletics. There's a reason they **** starts in marathons (and rarely win), hit from closer tees, and pitch underhand from closer mounds.

March 26, 2011  02:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

In other aspects of life, I agree,but it's hard to give female athletes the same equality in athletics. There's a reason they **** starts in marathons (and rarely win), hit from closer tees, and pitch underhand from closer mounds.

HAHAHAHA.

Really FN? get head is censored?

March 26, 2011  02:34 PM ET

The WNBA isn't even where these girls make their money. They all make a lot more over in Europe where women's Basketball actually is fairly possible. If you made the season longer the quality of play would be worse. Not because of the number of games but because the good American girls wouldn't even play here. A lot of them are questioning why they do now.

March 26, 2011  02:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Synchronized swimmingPocket poolRhythmic gymnastics

In men's defense, that's because they're focusing on real sports.

March 26, 2011  02:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

When Candace Parker won rookie of the year and MVP in the same season she became the 7th person in all of pro sports and first female to win both those honors in the same season. The others ? Wilt chamberlain, wes unseld, ichiro Suzuki, Jim brown and Fred lynn. Impressive.

Uh, I think you left out 1 tiny tid bit of information.

The competition level.

March 26, 2011  02:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

The WNBA isn't even where these girls make their money. They all make a lot more over in Europe where women's Basketball actually is fairly possible. If you made the season longer the quality of play would be worse. Not because of the number of games but because the good American girls wouldn't even play here. A lot of them are questioning why they do now.

It is government sponsored and hence publically funded in Europe. That is not the case in the USA.

 
March 26, 2011  03:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Uh, I think you left out 1 tiny tid bit of information.The competition level.

Competing against the best female athletes on the planet is easy is it? Regardless of sport or gender these people competed against the best and proved they were tops in their sport.

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