- 04/03/2011, 03:56PM ET
DJRoxalot said 04/03, 05:58 PM
The Nuggets made a smart decision to trade Melo and it will favor them (over NY) in the future
This is not just based off their 14-4 record since the trade. Or the Knicks struggling since they acquired the volatile high scoring SF.
George Karl has been working his magic as a coach for a long time and he has the Nuggets playing very well after losing a perennial All Star. They are much better because they are playing as a team.
Here are some interesting numbers to look at:
Who says you need a superstar 25 point per game scorer to be successful?
You should know the drill by now.
BRING THE PAIN
BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/04, 07:41 AM
Who says you need a superstar 25 ppg scorer to be successful?
The last 10 years says so. The way the Knicks are build (Laker-ish), they definately need a big time scorer.
The only teams listed below that didnt have one are Celtics, Spurs, Pistons. They were all built as a complete unit. They won because of a sum of there parts.
List of previous 10 NBA champions / Regular season leader / ppg:
Lakers - Bryant 27
Lakers - Bryant 26
Celtics - Pierce 19
Spurs - Duncan 20
Heat - Wade 27
Spurs - Duncan 20
Pistons - Hamilton 17
Spurs - Duncan 23
Lakers - O'Neal 27
Lakers - O'Neal 28
DJRoxalot said 04/04, 09:21 PM
Going for the loophole strategy??? I never said the Nuggets would win an NBA title with the trade.
But I do think they set themselves up for a much better future than they would have been looking at. They have a solid starting lineup and a bench that is among the best in the NBA.
7 different players have led the Nuggets in scoring since the trade.
JR Smith (4 times)
Ty Lawson (4 times)
Gallinari (3 times)
Hilario (3 times)
Wilson Chandler (2 times)
Raymond Felton (2 times)
Kenyon Martin (1 time)
And the Pistons lineup featured good players that played well as a team. The Nuggets have the makings of being very similar to that Pistons team.
They have allowed just 90.3ppg since the trade and are a much better defensive team.
The Nuggets have gone 15-4 since the trade and with some good additions, such as a PF....They could be right up there with OKC as the future contenders in the Western Conference.
That was a truncated opening argument....BRING THE PAIN!!!
BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/05, 07:59 AM
yikes, i went with the who needs 25 pt scorer to be succesful, not who made the better deal.
I think it was best for both teams. The Knicks will need to win with talent, and the Nuggets will have to win as a team. I think they both got what the wanted out of it.
Knicks - better with Melo
Nuggets - better without Melo
As far as who it favors later on, Melo is still pretty young and with him and Amare, they could be a serious contender.
I think the Nuggets are better off tho so I guess i cant really be in this arguement. My bad dx. 7-1 voting right now. Yikes.
The biggest thing for the plus side to the Nuggets, good fan base, good ownership, and now a solid and deep squad with some youth. A young Spurs maybe? Kind of a stretch at this point but we'll see...
DJRoxalot said 04/05, 10:11 AM
Have you watched the Knicks with Melo?
They are struggling and even had a 6 game losing streak with losses to Detroit, Milwaukee (twice) and Charlotte. And double digits to the Celtics and Magic. They lost to 3 teams that are not playoff caliber. You have to win those games.
They have slipped to the 7th seed.
They look so bad. Melo looks lost at times and A'mare is the leader of that team. And lately A'mare has been standing around while Melo has the ball in crunch time. They may be having a locker room battle for that team soon.
If things do not improve next season and Howard is on the trading block, NY needs to consider shipping Melo to the Magic for Howard. they would have an incredible frontcourt and Howard could help bring some defense to the Knicks.
Good to see you back, Murder (do not remember your old screen name) and it can take a while to shake off the rust. Just joking, man.
HERE COME THE PLAYOFFS!!!!
BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/06, 04:01 AM
Username used to be BigBen7.
There is dispute to a confliction going on in MSG as of late. It might take some time for him to settle. If they can bring him back next year, they might have a serious shot at a nice playoff run.
Maybe he hasnt settled to the elevation difference between Denver and NYC. Is it possible he has snow in his shoes? Absolutely.
Melo for Howard? NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! yeah it would look crazy for Amare and Howard but what has Howard ever won? Zip.
Like i said before, the KNicks are going to need an off-season to gel. The Nuggets seem to be better off because of all the players they kept together that came over. Maybe Karl is a better manager of players than D'Antoni, maybe his system fits better with the players they received in the trade.
Either way, the Knicks roster as of now, needs Melo. The Nuggets are better off without him.
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