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Dirk for President said 04/08, 12:40 AM
1) Joe Montana/Jerry Rice
2) Steve Young/Jerry Rice
3) Dan Marino/Mark Clayton
4) Troy Aikman/Michael Irvin
5) John Elway/ Rod Smith
Osu-Poo Sugar Bowl Blue!! said 04/08, 01:50 AM
2 changes....ranked if they were supposed to be
1) Peyton Manning/ Marvin Harrison
2) Joe Montana/Jerry Rice
3)Steve Young/Jerry Rice
4)Troy Aikman/Michael Irving
5)Brett Favre/Antonio Freeman
Honerable mention: Jim Kelly/ Andre Reed
Dirk for President said 04/08, 06:20 PM
I get it, I should be shot for not having Manning and Harrison on the list but you should not have them 1st.
I know they rank Number 1 in tds for a duo and receptions and yards, which helps when you have played with some one over 10 years.
As good as they are to put them over any duo with Rice is just asinine. We are talking about a DUO that showed up at crunch time in the playoffs.
You ever hear anyone saying Joe Montana and Jerry Rice cant get it done in the playoffs, no because NO ONE shut down Rice, especially when Montana or Young were throwing to him.
Marino and Clayton I think were underrated. During their time together Clayton set the record for tds in a season with 18. He ended his dolphin career with over 500 rec 8500 yards and over 80 tds.
He teamed with Mark Duper to form one of the most exciting talented duo of wrs to ever play the game.
They went to 1 SB together but probably would have been more had they evolved a running game. Longevity doesnt always make some one better, but Marino and Clayton as well as Elway and Smith deserve to be in the list more than Favre and Freeman but more on that on my final argument
Osu-Poo Sugar Bowl Blue!! said 04/09, 12:31 PM
Question i should of asked you earlier...were they supposed to be in order?
No doubt in my mind that Jerry Rice was a better receiver than Harrison. Close but better. Montanta and Manning?
Closer still.
For the amount of time Manning and Harrison played together and the numbers they put up together, in my opinion they were the better tandem.
Manning: 54,828 yards 399 TD's 198 picks 94.9 rating
Montana 40,551 yards 273 TD's 139 picks 92.3 rating
Manning has more yards TD's and a better overall rating in less years played. I know it's not all about stats. For DJ's sake, there they are.
Moving on to Brett Favre and Freeman. They put up huge numbers. If a guy doesn't get open he's not going to get the ball, I don't care who the Qb is. Freeman got open and got open a lot and they put up #winning numbers together.
Clayton was just as average a receiver as Freeman was with an elite Qb, so what makes that tandem so different?
"Mark Duper and Clayton were an one of the best duo of wide receivers to play the game"
Pump your brakes there my friend. I think your reaching a little far there. You reach any further you might pull a muscle.
Dirk for President said 04/10, 01:28 AM
So your arguement is based on stats, I get it Peyton to Marvin Harrison is one of the great reg season tandems but so were Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.
Arguably both Montana and Rice can be considered better than Manning and Harrison.
Your only arguement is the 10 plus years they played together, therefore having better stats with each other.
Sure you can have the stats in the regular season, but Ill trade them for the Playoff stats of Montana and Rice compared to Manning and Harrison.
Im not saying Manning and Harrison werent great but they def werent #1.
When both tandems excel during the regular season, the only way to differentiate them is post season and we all know Manning and Harrison cant hold a candle to Montana and Rice or Young and Rice.
Antonio Freeman-(10 yr career) 477 rec 7251 yds 61 tds and 1 Pro Bowl and 1 All Pro Selection
Mark Clayton-( 11 yr career) 582 rec 8974 yds and 84 tds with 5 pro bowl selections
If i had to guess I would say one of them was more average than the other, but if both qbs were 2 ofthe best ever, then Mark Clayton gets the edge by a huge margin over Freeman
Osu-Poo Sugar Bowl Blue!! said 04/10, 04:15 AM
Your argument is that my 1 and 2 pick should be flipped, So how did you not even include Peyton and Harrison on your list?
You put John Elway to ?Rod Smith?, Dan Marino/Mark Clayton, and Aikman to Irvin ahead of them.
My point is that Manning and Harrison played together so well for so long that they have to be mentioned as the BEST tandem ever. At least in the conversation. The way players move around these days what they did that will never happen again. You could always turn on ESPN and hear there names at least three times on Sportscenter for a decade.
I will give you Brett Favre carried Antonio Freeman, but the two together did produce a Superbowl victory.
Freemans/Favre Super Bowl stats: 2 Games 12 catches 231 yards 3 TD's 1 Super Bowl Championship
Mark Clayton with Marino Super Bowl Stats: 1 game 6 catches 92 yards no titles
You blatanly missed one of the best Tandem's in all of sports in Harrison and Manning. There really isn't anything else to say, where I have them ranked is irrelevant.
Good TD. In other news the budget got extended again so at least I will get a full paycheck. I was going to walk home from the middle east if not. j/k
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I get it and I admit It, im a mid mid 80s to 90s 49er homer
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da da damn
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Should have an argument posted soon, 2 changes so far. Trying for a third but your 5 year loophole is a pain in the behive.
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Steve Largeant and Jim Zorn just isn't going to fly. Man I was trying to use them.
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Im pretty sure I know 2 of the possible changes. I just felt I had to leave them out.
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Left just leaves out big names in every TD
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We didn't turn back the clock very far did we?
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The only reason I'm voting right is because left forgot Manning-Harrison... but they aren't #1 on the list. It will always be Montana-Rice followed by Manning-Harrison and then Young-Rice.
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I'm from Buffalo and hate the Bills but the Jim Kelly / Andre Reed combo was better than both of your #5's
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I'd put Jim Kelly / Andre Reed over Brett Favre / Antonio Freeman
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Left hurt himself by not putting in Manning/Harrison.
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Agreed.
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Leaning Right but Favre to Freeman just isn't there for me. And I would put Manning to Wayne over Elway to Smith, Favre to Freeman and Marino to Clayton.
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So TE's don't count right?
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Agreed. But not voting yet. I'd love to see the reason for leaving off Manning/Harrison.
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RIGHT....
Who is Michael IrvinG? I think you meant Irvin.
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Clayton-Marino??
81 TD's is pretty good...
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Complete brain fart...didn't see it on left's list. Leaning left...Can't have Manning-Harrison over Young-Montana-Rice. I think Harrison shot more people than rings he won....
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If he can come up with a good reason for leaving out Manning to Marvin, then I'll change my vote and then probably buy some swamp land in Florida from him.
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