- 04/17/2011, 03:00AM ET
Dirk for President said 04/17, 03:00 AM
Seriously though, Im a believer in momentum and its shifts. I believe fans cheering or one magnificent play can change the outlook of a game which is why Im not a big fan of MLB umps and NBA refs who get way too into the game and try to throw momentum.
Now Im a Mavs fan but with a little over a minute left with the Blazers having the ball, when it went out on them the ref got a little too carried away trying to throw momentum.
Seriously was there any need to side step halfway across the court, wait for a 2nd then send the signal the ball was out on Portland.
If this would have been the 2nd qtr he would have just made the signal and the game wouldve have moved on.
But here in the 4th quarter with the game inbalance he wants to make a dramatic call against the TrailBlazers.
This happens all the time in MLB and NBA, with the refs or umps over reacting on certain plays to change the game.
Is it really neccesary in the 7th inning of a 2-1 game with 2 on and 2 outs and a 3-2 pitch for the ump after the pitch has been thrown wait 5 secs then give the strikeout call all emphaticaly.
Maybe Im reading to much into it but it is annoying especialy if its against my team
BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/17, 03:50 AM
I enjoy the enthusiasm as long as its the right call....
..... but i hate when they get all ballsy on the players, like they are in control of everything.
Getting excited about a game as a referee is understandable. It's almost as big for them as it is for the players.
I want be all excited if I was umping Game 7 of the World Series and got to call a strikeout to have someone win the title. It would be awesome!
It's lame if they jsut make the call.... depending on the situation. I know back in my HS days of baseball, there was one ump who was totally enthusiastic about every call he made. It made the game more enjoyable, especially since I played behind the plate.
Excitement isn't a bad thing.... letting your emotions influence the game is what needs to be avoided.
Dirk for President said 04/17, 05:47 AM
I think those is letting your emotions influence the game, Im sure the refs know that what they do can turn the tide of a game based on fan reaction, people mayh think its a myth but I actually buy into it.
So if you scoot sideways across half the floor onlyh to hold for 5 secs andf then do a blocking foul, your getting way more involved than u need to be
If i was a ref or ump, Id do it too much like Naked Gun, when he goes whild on calling the strikes then balls, got the crowd pumped and all into it lol
Sometimes I think its a slick way for them to change the outcome of a game without it looking obvious?
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BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/17, 08:48 AM
It's Patrick Swayze on here this weekend.... hopefully we can get some views tomorrow!
I definately do not buy into the refs trying to swing momentum for a hidden reason. I know there have been incidents like Donaghy but if we don't believe our refs can call the game without bias then why are we playing them in the first place?
The only refs that don't get attention are in the NHL. They make the call, keep it simple, and that's it.
I have no problem with an enthusiastic ref as long as he doesnt get too crazy and start getting in players faces, like we see in the MLB. You will see umps almost challenging players. Completely ridiculous.
Being exciting and feeling the emotion of the moment is different than letting your excitement or anger get the better of you and influencing the players.
Here's a real issue:
The lockout is still going on.... forget the refs. I want an NFL season.
Dirk for President said 04/17, 11:08 PM
Im sure we will have one but if we dont, maybe the Pac 10 can switch their games to Sunday like they had played around with.
**** if theres not going to be pro on Sunday atleast let their be some football on Sunday.
The owners will win this war I believ3e unless a judge rules in their favor.
What Im not a big fan of is the no n guranteed contracts unlike the other major sports.
Now I get the fact that in football its easier to get hurt andf youd be on the line for more money but for one football players get paid the least out of the 3 sports, even though its by far the most popular so why not do guranteed contracts to where if a person does get hurt, you only owe them a portionm of the contract instead of just cutting them and not giving them any money
Not to fair in my opinion.
BurghFan1: on XBL said 04/18, 01:56 AM
I guess I'm all burnt out of ideas for this whole "refs swing the momentum" jazz.
Will the NFL season happen? I'd say 90% yes. Players are greedy, owners are greedy, so someone is going to have to get stepped on a little bit.
I'm partial to both sides on some issues:
- I like that the PA wants players to greet newly drafted players, but I don't like having 2 seperate venues.
- The kickoff move was fine. Devin hester won't be happy tho.
- Keep it to 16 games, the more games.... the more the product gets diluted. NBA, MLB, and NHL all suffer from months of boring non-sense.
- If owners want to cry about losing revenue from the 2 extra games, how about the wages that people are losing without having a season? Yeah you might have to go $10K less on your yacht but at least someone out there can feed their family.
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