- 05/05/2011, 09:46PM ET
fat28will said 05/05, 09:46 PM
1. Dwayne Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Monta Ellis
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson
This is based on the success of their season in 2011. more will come in the next arguement
BALL UP !!!
DJRoxalot said 05/05, 10:54 PM
Only 1 substitution.
Averaged 16.5ppg, 3.4rpg, 2.7apg and 1.0spg while shooting 49.1% on FG's, 44.4% on 3pointers and 88% on FT's.
In the playoffs? He is averaging 20ppg, 4.3rpg, 2.3apg and 1.3spg while SHOOTING 56.8%, 63.9 and 100%.
Manu averaged 20.6ppg, 4.2apg and 4rpg but shot just 44.3%, 32.1% and 78%.
BRING THE PAIN AND DO NOT FORFEIT ANY ARGUMENTS!!!
fat28will said 05/06, 10:36 PM
alright I will give you your props on that info but that was mostly against a rookie and a bench scurb. He played against a scared Landry Fields and a BUM Bill Walker who combined shot 3 for 15 for three and 12 for 45 from 2. So come from that i would guess they dont have confidence to actually stick D. Manu had to Good defenders in Shane Battier and Tony Allen who were throwing him off but in game 4 he still hit that 2 which would have been a Three if his foot wasnt on the line. Now go to the Bos-Mia and look at the D that Ray is sticking on DWade. 38 in game1 and 28 in game2. just like when he hit that 3 AND MADE HIM FALL sts not Pretty.
DJRoxalot said 05/07, 10:34 AM
Props on that info?
It is not hard, use google!!! It is pretty amazing and you can come up with some informative stuff.
For the advanced user you can check out 82games.com.
Scared Landry Fields? I do not think Fields was "scared" at all. He had a very good rookie season and he came from the Pac 10 (soon to be Pac 12). So he is used to the "bright lights" of the big time.
Allen is 1 of the most clutch players in NBA history. The guy is probably more clutch than Kobe. And I am a huge Lakers fan so that is a huge compliment.
Walker is no bum, he did not have a good offensive series but Walker is no worse than an average defender.
And Allen is still a very good defender.
Manu is juat okay.
fat28will said 05/08, 03:33 AM
If you say Fields is used to "bright lights" then i guess he didn't get the memo during the playoffs. Fields poor play lead to the BUM Bill Walker to average more minutes then him. Also if you say Walker is not a bum then being 0 for 11 must mean something else. If you say that Walker is a average defender then I guess Ray Offense was just stilfling to Walker's D. Since thier Offensive wasn't going good no real reason D was needed to be played but when MIA hit Allen didn;t know what to do. Wade has outscored Allen in every game and has scored over 20 every game so I guess that GOOD D wasn't being administrated.
In the Spurs-Griz series Manu oppoesing SG only scored 9.0 ppg and 3.5 apg while he had 20ppg and 4.2apg. Showing that he had a good series and was playing Great D at the same time to hold his opponent to those low stats
DJRoxalot said 05/08, 10:15 PM
You said Fields was "scared." I was pointing out he was not SCARED at all.
They played walker on Allen because he was more exprienced. Not because Fields was scared.
Allen is a much better offensive player than Manu,
If you were to ask 10 GM's who they would rather have?
I guarantee 7 of 10 would take Allen. He is a better shooter and a better defender than Manu. Manu might be a better passer but Ray Ray is clutch and wins games for the Celtics.
Memphis SG's averaged 9ppg?
Mayo averaged 10.4ppg and Tony Allen averaged 9.2ppg.
Wade averaged 24.0ppg against Manu.
So I guess Ginobili does not have the answer to stop Wade either, huh?
Picking out 1 superstar that Allen struggles against? Not smart since most of the NBA cannot guard Wade either.
Allen defended Walker and Fields very well. That is why Walker was shooting 30% (9 of 30) during the series and Fields made just 20% of his shots.
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