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DJRoxalot said 05/08, 01:52 PM
Trade Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum to Orlando for Dwight Howard. Make the trade happen.
Lakers take on the trade: Lakers get a dominant center that is a better scorer, rebounder and defender than Drew.
Magic take on the trade: They get a real PF in Gasol (rather than Brandon Bass and Rashard Lewis) and a promising center in Bynum. They get decent return on Howard rather than watching him walk like James left Cleveland.
Trade Ron Artest, Luke Walton, a 1st and 2nd rounder to Philadelphia for Andre Iguodala.
Lakers take on the trade: They get an excellent defender and a great passer that would fit in perfectly.
Sixers take on the trade: They get a defensive player in Artest and rid themselves of Iggy who has been phased out of the offense with Jrue Holiday and Elton Brand becoming the primary focus.
Sign Jeff Foster to the veteran minimum to backup Howard. He is a good rebounder and defender.
Draft a PG.
G-Blake
G-Kobe
F-Odom
F-Iggy
C-Howard
Bench
G-Fisher
G-Brown
F-Barnes
F-Caracter
F-Ebanks
C-Foster
BRING THE PAIN!!!
Rudedog: Thankful said 05/08, 02:22 PM
First, to analyze your trades
Why would the Magic give up the most physically dominant player in the game for an aging power forward and an injury-prone center?
Why would the Sixers take a couple 30 year old SFs (one with many mental issues in the past) and a couple draft picks that'll be late in the rounds?
Honestly, I don't think making trades is necessary. This is a team that won 3 straight conference finals, a team I'm not counting out yet, and a team that has the talent. What they lack this year is focus, which is understandable given the fact this team has won 2 straight titles and been to 3 straight Finals.
This team accomplished it's ultimate goal of revenge last year and expended a lot of energy in doing so. Injuries caught up to them most the season with Bynum, Gasol, Kobe, Blake, Barnes, and some of the bench warmers.
I don't think it's necessary to implode this team. I fully expect Brian Shaw to run the triangle and this team is fit for that. If they take a summer off, refocus, and come back next year, they've got a couple more quality seasons left.
I also don't think trading for Howard is necessary when's he coming to LA anyway, which I'll explain
DJRoxalot said 05/08, 03:59 PM
The Magic want something in return rather than get LeBron'ed. They get Gasol who has some more miles left in him. He is just 30 and Bynum is a decent replacement in the post for Howard.
Iggy was tuied for 4th in FG's (with Lou Williams) behind Brand, Holiday and Thaddeus Young. They are not interested getting him involved in the offense.
3rd in the reg season.
Getting Artest will give them a good defensive SF. They will most likely buy out Walton.
Not counting them out? Listen, Rude. I am 1 of the biggest Lakers fans on FN but this series is over. I expect LA to win 2 more but to lose this in 6.
Injuries? They are all healthy right now and they are getting spanked by the Mavs in the West Semi's.
They have to trade for Howard. They cannot play Bynum and Howard in the same starting lineup. Besides they cannot afford those 3 along with Kobe's contract.
Deal for him before next season.
Take the summer off, refocus and come back next season? PJ will not be there, Brian Shaw most likely will. Make the trades and start fresh.
Iggy gives them an excellent ballhandler at SF and he will help distribute the ball, making up for the lack of a true PG.
Rudedog: Thankful said 05/09, 09:12 AM
Here's the deal DJ. Right now, Howard is playing Orlando like a fiddle. He's saying the right things, playing them along, and I don't think he'll stick around.
You talk about the Magic not wanting to get LeBron-ed, but I don't think they think he's leaving. They aren't going to assume he's leaving unless he goes Carmelo Anthony on them.
And no argument is going to convince me that Pau and Bynum is a fair trade for Dwight. They want young players and expiring contracts, neither of which the Lakers really have.
Neither of these trades are reasonable. Teams aren't going to trade away young talent for old guys the Lakers have. There are better offers they can get elsewhere for both players.
And if the Magic don't trade away Howard, he'll sign with LA and the Lakers can trade away Bynum for a good wingman. That way, the Lakers spend the same amount of money on Howard and still get a good, affordable wing man and not have to play Bynum and Howard together.
In the end, imploding this team isn't the answer. They have a couple years left and are a viable hot-spot for talent. The talent will come. Don't make moves you don't need to
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Future 1st and 2nd rounder in the Iggy trade.
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DJ, I don't follow the NBA like you do but please explain to me how you have 6-6 Iggy playing at PF.
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Odom would be the SF and Lamar the PF
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The only way economically the Howard trade would work is if it's Pau/Bynum for Dwight/Hedo
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3bsc46q
For the Iggy trade, it's work money wise, but not common sense wise
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No way would the Magic trade Dwight Howard for Pau Gasol and Bynum. No way in hell that's happening.
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I don't think we should be too down on Gasol for having a bad playoff series. He's still one of the top players in the league. The Magic will lose Howard to free agency next year unless they win the championship. Will they win a title next year? I don't think so.
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When it looks light Howard is walking?
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I did not put SF or PF, just forward.
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LeBron said a lot nicer things to Cleveland before he bailed
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My bad.
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Magic will need young cheap talent along with a heavy contract (to get the salaries to match) and some picks. My offer if Howard is traded, Lopez, Humphries and 2 first round picks for Howard. The Magic get a good young true center that still growing and underrated player in Humphries along with 2 first round picks that would not be in the last few picks of the draft.
I would take Lopez over Bynum because of a ) health and b) salary. Bynum (15.1 mil next year value) makes ~5 times what Lopez (3 mill next year value) makes and is under contract for longer.
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Magic will need young cheap talent along with a heavy contract (to get the salaries to match) and some picks. My offer if Howard is traded, Lopez, Humphries and 2 first round picks for Howard. The Magic get a good young true center that still growing and underrated player in Humphries along with 2 first round picks that would not be in the last few picks of the draft.
I would take Lopez over Bynum because of a ) health and b) salary. Bynum (15.1 mil next year value) makes ~5 times what Lopez (3 mill next year value) makes and is under contract for longer.
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Why take back that salary when other teams want him also? If you trade Howard you want young, cheap talent so you can afford to fit pieces around them. Bynum and Gasol make more than Wade and James make. The only way a deal like that happens is if the Lakers take Arenas's contract also which is more than 19 mill next season.
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