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Woodee3384 said 05/09, 10:41 AM
The correct answers in NO.

I think he belongs is the top 10. The only QB's I would put ahead of him are:
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Philip Rivers
Matt Schaub
Ben Roethlisberger
Mike Vick
Matt Ryan(maybe)

The thing here is all the players above have a go to WR or a very good WR corp. And you also have to put in your mind that the Ravens are a running team. They pretty much ran the ball half the time last season.

You can only put so much of the sacks on the QB. His WR corp is overrated and old. Anquan Boldin was only very good in Arizona because he played opposite of Fitzgerald. Derrick Mason is old and Houshmandzadeh hasn't been good for about 3 years now. Heap is and good TE and Rice is a good option out of the backfield. But none of these guys are players that stretch the field. Put Flacco on the Jets and we could argue that he is easily a top 10 QB.

There are 2 QB's who could possibly push Flacco for a top 10 spot and that's Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford(if they can stay healthy).

IMO, Matt Ryan are pretty equal. Ryan gets to play with a great running game and has good receiving corp with White, Jenkins, Gonzalez and Snelling.

Woodee3384 said 05/09, 03:56 PM
He managed to catch 64 catch passes for 837 yards (13.1ypc) with 7 TD's.

Those aren't great #'s for a #1 WR. He was 30th in the NFL in receiving yards. 7 TD's is pretty good but how can you actually think Boldin is a legit #1 WR? And of course those guys would have better stats if they were catching passes from Manning and Brady, they are 2 of the best to ever play the game.

Heap is a good TE but he is no, Gates, Clark, Gonzalez or Witten. I'm not saying Flacco's WR corp is terrible, I just said they are overrated. They have the big name players that just aren't that good anymore. Another reason why these guys are able to get decent YPC is because of the Ravens running threat. They have one of the best backs in the league who is multi-dimensional. This causes defenses to play one on one coverage. I mean your "#1" WR had 1 more reception than your RB.

His correct stats are:
62.6%(10th)
7.4 ypa(9th)
10 INT(11th)
His stats would average him in the top 10 I'm sure.

As for Matt Ryan, he is a good QB but he is a short yardage QB. He has a lower Comp% and QB rating. And tossed 80 more yards on 82 more attempts with one of the top WR's in the league.

Woodee3384 said 05/10, 08:25 PM
I don't see how people on here could consider Flacco overrated when he has been very good every year. But yet you are willing to put Josh Freeman in your top 10 and he has only had one good season and had 18 INT's in only 10 games last year. But hey that's your opinion. Flacco has been a good QB every season he has been in the league. Also Freeman played with the 8th ranked rushing team while Flacco's Ravens were 14th. Also look at the defenses that Flacco has to face twice a year and compare them with the NFC South.

I don't know who is saying Flacco is an "Elite" QB, but I would take him as a starter on my team any day. If everyone were saying he is an Elite QB then yes I would say he would be overrated but they don't. Saying he is a top 10 QB doesn't mean Elite IMO.

As for the sacks he has received. Don't you think you can blame that on the WR's lack of ability to get open? And a good reason Boldin did so well in AZ was because he was catching passes from a HOF.

I also see you added Matt Schaub in your top 10. And you talk about offensive firepower? He has a very good receiving core and run game and still can't lead his team to the playoffs.

Good Luck My Friend