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  • 05/10/2011, 12:09PM ET

OSU is Busted

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This is not objective. This is not love or hate. This is not a decision.

Either they have the proper paperwork on the autombiles or they dont. Guess what, I bet they dont.

This should warrant a return of the of the famous SMU death penalty.


While I agree that Ohio state should get some severe sanctions levied against them, I don't see the "death penalty" happening. College football's sole purpose is to make money, and I'm sure that OSU would be harmed financially, esp. in this economy, to have its huge revenue-making football program shut down completely for 2 years, as was done with SMU. The Big "10" would suffer, too, as OSU is its marquee team currently. Also, a TV ban is unlikely, as that would harm the Buckeye's opponents and its TV carriers (Big 10 network, ESPN, etc) financially. College football is a different landscape now then it was 25 years ago, what with all the constant TV exposure and all.

That having been said, I can easily imagine OSU getting U$C'd x 2. Tressel, the AD, and compliance dept. getting fired, the guilty players being dismissed, loss of scholly's and bowl games for a few years, etc. But no way they get the SMU death penalty.

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May 10, 2011  01:56 PM ET

It's not looking good for the OSU football program. I wonder how much longer JT will be in Columbus, will he make it through the year? As a lifelong Buckeye fan I'd rather the university get rid of him sonner rather than later.

May 10, 2011  01:59 PM ET
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It's not looking good for the OSU football program. I wonder how much longer JT will be in Columbus, will he make it through the year? As a lifelong Buckeye fan I'd rather the university get rid of him sonner rather than later.

**soOner

May 10, 2011  02:07 PM ET

Their stuff isn't as bad as SMU...and I hate Ohio State. Give em a lengthy bowl ban instead.

May 10, 2011  02:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Their stuff isn't as bad as SMU...and I hate Ohio State. Give em a lengthy bowl ban instead.

So does that mean you hate MSU's current football coach also? You do realize that before he took the Cincy and MSU jobs he was on the OSU coaching staff?

May 10, 2011  02:27 PM ET

McM...

Shouldn't you have more hatred for meeeechegan?

May 10, 2011  02:33 PM ET
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McM...Shouldn't you have more hatred for meeeechegan?

Hey, that throwdown got deleted before I got a chance to say everything I wanted to.

I completely understand your frustration with the Indians and Dolan. I share a lot of those frustrations as well. The part that pisses me off is when people talk about how the Indians traded all that talent for a "bag of baseballs" or a "fungo bat" or whatever thing they want to come up with. It's too early to judge any of these trades and, if there's one thing Shapiro's team has a strong history of, it's trades.

Sorry for busting your balls so much, but I hate reading that crap from anyone, let alone a fellow Indians fan.

May 10, 2011  02:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Hey, that throwdown got deleted before I got a chance to say everything I wanted to.I completely understand your frustration with the Indians and Dolan. I share a lot of those frustrations as well. The part that pisses me off is when people talk about how the Indians traded all that talent for a "bag of baseballs" or a "fungo bat" or whatever thing they want to come up with. It's too early to judge any of these trades and, if there's one thing Shapiro's team has a strong history of, it's trades.Sorry for busting your balls so much, but I hate reading that crap from anyone, let alone a fellow Indians fan.

I was in the middle of responding to you yesterday when that TD got deleted. And I understand what you mean and maybe I was being too harsh on the Tribe. And don't worry about our back 'n forth yesterday, it's all good. Let's hope the Indians can keep on keepin' on.

May 10, 2011  02:43 PM ET
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I was in the middle of responding to you yesterday when that TD got deleted. And I understand what you mean and maybe I was being too harsh on the Tribe. And don't worry about our back 'n forth yesterday, it's all good. Let's hope the Indians can keep on keepin' on.

I'll drink to that.

Your name wouldn't happen to be Derek, would it?

May 10, 2011  03:08 PM ET

The right is on the right track but hasn't followed the money trail quite far enough. Fans moan and complain when their rival schools get caught and don't get the penalty the believe they deserve. They are not taking everything in to consideration but then, why would they? They are fans and by definition, biased. If there is a successful football program out there, you will find violations if you go looking. If you take into consideration just who the NCAA is and how they are structured you will understand why at times they seem to look the other way or dole out justice with a markedly uneven hand. Giving OSU or any such school the death penalty is akin to shooting themselves in the financial foot. Without Buckeye football THEY lose big money. The same goes with several other schools such as Alabama, Auburn, USC, Texas, etc. The Super programs if you will with nationwide followings that are guaranteed to fill stadiums no matter where they go and generate HUGE television ratings. Folks, the NCAA is made up of university Presidents and the conferences for the most part. They have as much to lose as the school they are trying to discipline. Figure the odds of the Big Ten members voting to come down hard on OSU or any school scheduled to play them in the next few years. Not freakin' likely.

If you think OSU is cheating and your favorite team is not....you only have half of it right! ;-)

May 10, 2011  03:30 PM ET
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I'll drink to that.Your name wouldn't happen to be Derek, would it?

Same here! And no my name's not Derek.

May 10, 2011  03:44 PM ET

OH, i thought yu were talkin' 'bout Oregon State University...LOL

May 10, 2011  04:11 PM ET
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The right is on the right track but hasn't followed the money trail quite far enough. Fans moan and complain when their rival schools get caught and don't get the penalty the believe they deserve. They are not taking everything in to consideration but then, why would they? They are fans and by definition, biased. If there is a successful football program out there, you will find violations if you go looking. If you take into consideration just who the NCAA is and how they are structured you will understand why at times they seem to look the other way or dole out justice with a markedly uneven hand. Giving OSU or any such school the death penalty is akin to shooting themselves in the financial foot. Without Buckeye football THEY lose big money. The same goes with several other schools such as Alabama, Auburn, USC, Texas, etc. The Super programs if you will with nationwide followings that are guaranteed to fill stadiums no matter where they go and generate HUGE television ratings. Folks, the NCAA is made up of university Presidents and the conferences for the most part. They have as much to lose as the school they are trying to discipline. Figure the odds of the Big Ten members voting to come down hard on OSU or any school scheduled to play them in the next few years. Not freakin' likely.If you think OSU is cheating and your favorite team is not....you only have half of it right! ;-)

iI agree and I think they should penalize the teams that cheat and still are not worth a crap.

May 10, 2011  04:15 PM ET
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So does that mean you hate MSU's current football coach also? You do realize that before he took the Cincy and MSU jobs he was on the OSU coaching staff?

I realize that. So? Just because you hate them doesn't mean you don't respect and envy them.

May 10, 2011  04:36 PM ET

What did Oklahoma State do?

May 10, 2011  04:40 PM ET

I don't think anything like the SMU case, but it better not be like the penalties USC received, because what USC was accused of is nothing compared to what OSU has done. The NCAA messed up by giving USC such a harsh penalty for one player that received some benefits, without Pete Carrol's knowledge. I mean, a 2-year bowl ban, plus a number of scholarships, and two titles taken away? All for one guy who took some $$ off the field?? Ridiculous and sad, but that's the NCAA for you.

Now, they have to decide how bad OSU gets it. Should it be USC X 3? USC X 4? As soon as OSU gets their penalties assessed, I'm sure other teams will pop up with even worse NCAA "infractions." What a mess.

May 10, 2011  04:45 PM ET
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I don't think anything like the SMU case, but it better not be like the penalties USC received, because what USC was accused of is nothing compared to what OSU has done. The NCAA messed up by giving USC such a harsh penalty for one player that received some benefits, without Pete Carrol's knowledge. I mean, a 2-year bowl ban, plus a number of scholarships, and two titles taken away? All for one guy who took some $$ off the field?? Ridiculous and sad, but that's the NCAA for you.Now, they have to decide how bad OSU gets it. Should it be USC X 3? USC X 4? As soon as OSU gets their penalties assessed, I'm sure other teams will pop up with even worse NCAA "infractions." What a mess.

If I remember correctly, it was for more than just the fact that Bush had been taking money under the table; it was because the AD and others knew about it and looked the other way that SC got such a harsh penalty.

May 10, 2011  04:49 PM ET

In this case it's almost impossible to keep tabs on every players and their families movement unless the universities spend their own money on a security force or their own IG armed to the teeth with investigators.The easiest way to stop this behavior is to start taking away scholarships from the athletes. If you break the bylaws you pay the price with your scholarship and you won't be able to transfer to another school.If you want to continue your education and I don't think that there will be many cases in which this would happen,you pay for it on your own.You will be banned from competition in sports.Make athletes responsible and accountable and the BS will stop.Let the schools continue to compete unless they are found to have knowledge of the violations.

 
May 10, 2011  05:08 PM ET
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I realize that. So? Just because you hate them doesn't mean you don't respect and envy them.

Hey, just wondering. Calm down there Sparty!

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