- 05/11/2011, 03:05PM ET
:CubanMissile: said 05/11, 03:05 PM
I have watched for years as a group of people has been labeled and shamelessly plugged every Saturday on national television. We have seen movements to change offensive mascots in schools before, but most of those have focused solely on Indian related mascots. It's time for someone to take a stand and declare that Notre Dame Fighting Irish need to change their mascot.
1. Its offensive
Really the Fighting Irish? Nice stereotype. Could you imagine any other group of people being described with such a stereotypical adjective. Not only do they call it something offensive: but then they go to try to find the scrawniest looking ginger and dress him up as a leprechaun in what they belive is an accurate depiction of the culture. So not only are the Irish always "fighting" but they are also very small and look like leprechauns.
2. It hurts the team
They switched to the fighting Leprechaun in 1965. Before that when they had a dog as their mascot they won 5 championships and where the winningest team around. We even saw them return to glory when they hired a droopy faced dog-like coach/mascot in Lou Holtz.
ND needs to change to their old mascot
YODA said 05/11, 04:36 PM
First, I want to make it clear that I don't condone the existence of gingers.
As for the "Fighting"...
People and groups that are NOT offended by the concept of violence, fights, and fighting:
- Male NFL Fans (within normal testosterone range)
- Most Female NFL Fans too
- Action Movie Fans
- NHL Fans
- Muhammad Ali
- Call of Duty Fans
- BJ Penn
- Beastie Boys' fans who have been deprived of a basic right
GROUP 2 - People that yell "Stop the Fighting!!!":
- Little girls in fear of breaking a nail
- Agitated TDers in need of a calming drink, smoke, or toke
- Citizens of France
Which group do you think the Irish would like to be alligned with?
The baguette munching surrender monkeys from Paris?
Attempts to strip away the "fighting" tradition from the Irish amount to cultural sodomy, an unfortunate subject that would normally only "rear" itself in a Cain TD.
Even in the context of humor, pacifism should not be celebrated.
As for the ginger on the logo, the curse is obviously legitimate. The little leprechaun is clearly messing with your head. Resist.
:CubanMissile: said 05/12, 02:29 PM
The word "fighting" is hurting ND in it's attempt to return to glory:
NFL fans: While ND would love to play off the more physical NFL to gain fans and recruits, it won't be possible since no NFL fans will have heard of ND seeing as they no longer produce pro players.
Female Fans: Local Indiana girls is all they will draw. Lets just say these girls are so "great looking" that Rude still has his V-card BY CHOICE. If you can't draw the girls, the guys aren't going to want to go their.
MMA Fans: Studies show that 99.5% are SEC fans, and the ones who happen to turn into an ND game will just be infuriated with the physical effort: creating poor fan support
If the NFL has taught us anything, its that fighting is a thing of the past. Voice of the NFL Rashard Mendenhall has lets us know that its wrong to celebrate violence. Ricky Williams has even displayed that Athletes are willing to walk away for something more peaceful. ND needs to listen to attract better athletes.
I have yet to even venture into the legal ramifications ND could face due to false advertising.
YODA said 05/12, 04:09 PM
"Stop the Fighting!!!"
"Fight the Power." - Public Enemy
Everything thing in your 2nd argument was fabricated out of thin air. Specifically, thin air that was invaded by an unforgiving fart cloud.
"I am a soldier. I FIGHT where I am told. And I WIN where I fight." - George S. Patton
So taking away the name "Fighting" is magically going to get Rudedog laid? If you had said something more reasonable (like it will solve world hunger), it might have slipped by. And then you bring up "false advertising"? Sorry, Cuban, but Rudedog is "impregnable" (courtesy, Iron Mike Tyson).
"Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting
Those cats were fast as lighting."
Highway Crossing Frog already played Minister of Defense recently for Rashard Mendenhall. But in his 3rd argument, he still admitted that fighting (particularly catfighting involving oil or mud) is not something to be offended by.
"FIGHTING out of the red corner, the Italian Stallion, Rocky BalBOA!" - Ring announcer prior to 2nd bout with Clubber Lang
Mortal Combat Voice: "FIGHT!..........................FINISH HIM!"
Rule #2: You DO NOT talk about Fight Club.
:CubanMissile: said 05/13, 01:34 PM
Saying i'm pulling stuff out of the air? Sorry Sir Issac Newton but i will not let your laws nor gravity try to hold my voice down. I'm talking about another Newton. A Cam who may have come to ND, except that "fighting" was against his family value$.
I never said removing fighting would get Rude laid, but it could have attracted another more predominant Virgin in Tim Tebow.
HCF is a good guy and all, but i think we have seen enough to know that letting the English say what is OK for the Irish is going to lead to trouble.
You do not talk about fight club, but i do. After all, that fighting led to buildings being blown up. So sorry i am anti-terrorist. Being called the Fighting Irish implies that the team fights, yet ND gets pounded more then a SF giants fan.
Notre Dame is advertising a product they don't nor shouldn't produce: fighters. Just reading the word fighting leads to violence. Look at you, you went from a peaceful little Green Dude to a straight up killer with those first 2 arguments. Theirs no need for mortal combat brutality in sports or tds.
YODA said 05/13, 04:09 PM
When Bob Barker promoted castration at the end of every episode of 'The Price is Right', he was talking about your pets. He didn't want you to get neutered.
I wish you well living a life of subservience and emasculation.
But this throwdown is about the the rights of the Irish. I had planned on calling an expert witness to the stand for my third arg. I think this topic could have easily been put to rest with a little testimony from avid Irish American Drunken Bar Fighter and semi-retired FanNation member, JimJ77. However, I was unable to obtain a good drunken (non Arnie-related) quotation in time.
There's this though:
TOP 5 PUNCHLINES TO DIRTY IRISH JOKES
5. Now she's out in the barn making Bailey's Irish Cream.
4. Wait. I thought Dublin was having sex with fat twins.
3. Here's one snake that St. Patrick didn't chase out of Ireland.
2. I just saw Lindsay Lohan and Megan Fox practising their Gaelic
1. Lord of the Dance? More like Lord in My Pants!
- courtesy World Wide Pants
Thanks for the TD, Cuban.
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