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IRB - Hawks are back! said 05/16, 01:45 PM
PG - Steve Nash *
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Tim Duncan

Bench
PG - Jason Kidd *
SG - Manu Ginobli *
SF - Stephen Jackson *
PF - Pau Gasol *
C - Marcus Camby *

Nash is a much better PG thab Kidd, thats not even debatable. The rest of the starters are hard to argue honestly, though I thought about Jackson over Pierce.

The bench needs to be completely revamped. Kidd is a better PG than Billups, though Billups is a better scorer. Manu is a far supperior player to Allen, who is a one trick pony at this point, S. Jax over Butler, everytime, Gasol over Garnett (despite his pathetic playoff performance this year), and Camby over Shaq, who cannot even walk at this point.

IRB - Hawks are back! said 05/17, 11:15 AM
You are talking all time at this point, I was under the impression this was right now, as we were both using current players. Even so, my team is better.

Steve Nash is the definition of a PG, he distributes and makes everyone around him better.

Suns didnt make it because everyone around Nash is garbage

I would rather have a player who can do everything extremely well coming off the bench than a guy that is exceptional at one thing. (Manu > Allen)

Butler is a better Role player? What do you mean by that? Jackson is the better palyer all around.

Garnett is over the hill and is just angrily fouling people and screaming at this point. Pau is a finese Big, but he can score, and rebound and actually plays decent defense (this years post season excluded).

And yes, a healthy Shaq WAS better than Camby. but at this point in their careers (btw, Shaq's is over), Camby is a starter and Shaq is an afterthought brought in to sell jerseys.

IRB - Hawks are back! said 05/18, 04:34 PM
The C's record when Shaq was healthy had little to do with him, they also had Perk for a lot of those games. Camby was solid all year, and is a better option to have on a team right now. Even when they are both healthy.

I still dont consider Nash now vs. Kidd now to be a close comparison.

7.9 ppg 4.4 rpg 8.2 apg 2.2 TO 36% FG% J. Kidd
14.7 PPG 3.5 RPG 11.4 APG 3.5 TO 49% FG% S. Nash

who do you take of the above? the second one! Nash is better.

16.5 ppg 3.4 rpg 2.7 apg 1.0 spg 1.5 TO 49% FG% R. Allen
17.4 ppg 3.7 rpg 4.9 apg 1.5 spg 2.2 TO 43% FG% M. Ginobli

Pretty comperable. But in my oppinion, I want a creative, high energy guy like Ginobli on my team, not a guy who is strictly a shooter at this point.

14.9 ppg 8.9 rpg 2.4 apg 1.3 spg 52% FG% K. Garnett
18.8 ppg 10.2 rpg 3.3 apg 0.6 spg 52% FG% P. Gasol

Again, the stats go my way, Pau averaged a double double.

And you already admited I win the last one.

I did not plan on getting all statistical on you, but I think it was required.