- 05/30/2011, 10:07AM ET
Outlaw... said 05/30, 10:07 AM
Topic- is fishing a sport?
My answer is yes.
In fact, fishing is classified as an outdoor sport.
Bass Pro Shops is considered a SPORTING goods store.
You might say it doesn't require much of anything, but I'd like to see some of you pull in a 15 pound catfish on 10 pound test line. Or pull in a marlin. Hell, I doubt most of them could even take a bream off the hook.
The big fish put up a fight that requires strength, along with finesse and stamina in many cases.
There is no lack of competition angle on this TD either. There are countless fishing tournaments around the world. Hell, The Bass Masters Tournament pulls in well over a million dollars every year.
The fact that in most cases in the US, most fishermen do not have to fish to stay alive makes it a sport. With so many anglers employing the catch and release deal, means that they are fishing for sport, and not out of necessity.
If things like golf and NASCAR are considered sports, then there is no question in my mind that fishing is a sport.
Good luck MMT.
BM. said 05/30, 08:25 PM
As you all know, I love to fish. Hell, look at my avatar.
That being said, I do not believe fishing can be considered a "sport". Sure, there are competitions and tournaments and all that jazz, but you do not have to be athletic whatsoever to be a professional fisherman.
You say "If golf and NASCAR are sports" etc... that fishing has to be considered a sport. Not true.
Golf requires athleticism in order to be successful. It is pure mechanics and takes unbelievable coordination and muscle memory. NASCAR, as you know, requires unbelievable stamina in order to be successful.
Fishing, on the other hand, requires no athleticism. Casting a lure out into a lake is the most physical part about it. If they get tired, there are seats on the boat.
You bring up people catching marlins and what not, and say that a "normal" person couldn't do it. Not true. My friend's dad went deep sea fishing a few years back, and he caught a marlin. He is about 5 foot 10 and 300 pounds.
By the way, "fishing for sport" basically just means fishing for fun.
I apologize to Bill Dance for the above statements.
Good Luck Outlaw.
Outlaw... said 05/30, 08:40 PM
Fishing successfully requires hand eye coordination as well.
If you're gonna use a bait caster real, and you don't have good hand eye coordination, then you will be spending more time untangling your line than you will with a line in the water.
Being a sport doesn't require the participants to be athletic. Prince Fielder, Pablo Sandoval and CC Sabathia ring a bell? Hell, look at Butterbean and sumo wrestlers.
A normal guy can real in a marlin, but it's not easy. If you hook a big fiesty marlin, the fight can last well over an hour. You try and tell me it doesn't take stamina to fight a 300 pound fish for over an hour.
Fishing used to be necessary to maintain life, now that you can go to a store and buy fish, and in most places is done for fun, that makes it a sport.
Fishing takes a lot of skill to be successful at. A guy that has never fished is never gonna outfish Kevin Van Dam.
Fishing is one of the more competitive sports out there when fishing with friends. And I don't care what you say, fishing from day light to dark does require stamina especially if you are walking up creeks.
BM. said 05/30, 10:19 PM
The average person does not use a baitcasting reel. They are harder to control and take a lot of experience to avoid getting "bird's nests". I know, it's a fishing term, but my opponent knows what I'm talking about. Spinning reels are much more common, and anybody can use them.
You bring up Prince Fielder and CC Sabathia, but that comparison cannot be made. Those guys may be big, but they work out in the gym just like any other pro athlete does. They are big, but in shape.
You can't be a fat, out of shape load and be successful at baseball. The same thing cannot be said for fishing. If you can cast a baitcaster, and know how to find the fish, you can be a professional fisherman regardless of the health of your body.
You keep bringing up how fishing used to be necessary to maintain life. Yeah, so was knitting. People needed clothes. Should knitting be considered a sport since it's now done by machine and the average person that knits does it for fun? What about shelter? Should construction workers be considered sportsman as well?
Fishing is a fun activity that is shared amongst friends. Beer is usually involved.
It's more of a hobby, not a sport.
Outlaw... said 05/31, 10:29 AM
I don't know where you're coming off that these guys in bad health can be professional fishermen. Professional fisherman are on the boat before day break and generally don't get back until around dark.
That's a long time for a morbidly obese person to be out in the elements.
And again, to be a sport, the participant's don't have to be athletes.
Look at billiards at billiards and darts.
Plus this TD incorporates all kinds of fishing. This includes spear fishing, which many times involves diving with not much more than an oxygen tank and a spear gun, noodling, which is very dangerous, and involves snatching giant catfish out of the water, and bow fishing, which requires good aim with a fishing bow, and the water changes the angle.
I don't see how beer being involved takes anything away from it. Hell, Babe Ruth used to drink beer in between innings, and Ron Artest(I think) used to drink Hennessey in the locker room.
Fishing is an outdoor sport, the section of the store that you buy your fishing equipment is called the sporting goods section.
Fishing might not be an athletic sport, but it is a sport.
BM. said 05/31, 12:32 PM
Nobody is talking about people being morbidly obese. The average professional athlete cannot eat cheeseburgers every day and drink beer regularly and still be in the proper physical shape to compete in their sport.
A fisherman can do all those things and still be competitive.
You brought up billiards and darts. NEITHER of those are sports. Just because you see them on ESPN doesn't make them sports. Spelling Bees and Poker are shown on ESPN too, but they clearly are not sports.
I can't believe you actually brought up noodling in this argument. Noodling is not a sport whatsoever. Guys getting drunk and letting massive catfish bite their hands can not possibly be considered a sport.
"I don't see how beer being involved takes anything away from it."
Can a baseball player show up drunk and play well? What about a football player? A hockey player? No way.
A fisherman can be hammered and still catch fish. I do it all the time, and I'm no professional by any means.
Very good TD Outlaw.
But in the future, please refrain from leaving your personal photos lying around.
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